This is an excellent point, Jim. I agree with this. I'd noticed that John McGhie, a Word MVP, was advising people to use "space after" in paragraphs instead of using extra carriage returns in Word, so I've started doing it. It does make lots of things work better in Word. An extra carriage return actually makes a blank, extra paragraph, as far as Word is concerned. In Word, the invisible 'end-of-paragraph' character contains all the style information, so that comes along with it. When you then try inserting section breaks - say because your top margin is different on the first letterhead page than on subsequent pages - these extra blank paragraphs get everything confused and you have to keep resetting that top margin over and over, every time you edit the document (letter in this case). And i think far more will go wrong if you're using special styles.
So this issue is probably as good as any to get you adding 'space-after' to Normal and other styles in Word. Then pasting in to Entourage will work correctly and look good too. Thanks for making this clear, Jim. -- Paul Berkowitz > From: Jim Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Entourage:mac Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:30:42 -0500 > To: "Entourage:mac Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Word/Entourage v.X interaction > > The design does make sense if you use Word as a true "word processor" rather > than as an "electronic typewriter." Microsoft designers probably expect you > to use the "space after" (or "space before") paragraph format feature to get > extra space between paragraphs rather than an additional carriage return. If > you use "space after" there is only one carriage return between paragraphs > and adding another carriage return in the HTML conversion makes the text > look better because it adds a space between paragraphs. > > Of course, if you use empty paragraphs to add space, the conversion doubles > the space. Unfortunately, many people DO use extra paragraphs for spacing, > so maybe the design doesn't follow the reality of Word use by most > customers. > > (This is similar to the old typewriter rule to put 2 spaces between > sentences. You are not supposed to do so in printing -- or a word processor, > and the grammar checker will flag extra spaces as an error.) > > On 1/11/02 7:26 PM, "Allen Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On 1/11/02 4:18 PM, I wrote: >> >>> As Paul has said, the guys at MS say the behavior is deliberate, for some >>> reason having to do with the way text is handled in the two programs. This >>> is what Dan Crevier (of Microsoft) wrote on another list several months >>> ago: >>> >>>> Actually, it is by design. In Entourage X/Word X, Entourage uses the >>>> HTML that Word puts on the clipboard. For <p> tags, Entourage puts two >>>> carriage returns between paragraphs. If that's not going to work for >>>> you, you'll have to use Edit->Paste Special->Paste As Plain Text. >>>> >>> >> After playing with this a bit, I have to agree that the current behavior is >> NOT what one would expect. Pasting as plain text loses all the >> formatting--fonts, bold, italic, size, and so on, so that isn't what anyone >> would want, cutting and pasting. Pasting into HTML with a regular paste gets >> doubled spacing between paragraphs, which requires extensive editing. >> Neither option is good. Conclusion: This may be by design, but the design is >> flawed. > > -------- > Jim Block > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hauppauge, NY (Long Island) > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > archives: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/entourage-talk%40lists.letterrip.com/> > old-archive: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/entourage-talk%40lists.boingo.com/> > -- To unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archives: <http://www.mail-archive.com/entourage-talk%40lists.letterrip.com/> old-archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/entourage-talk%40lists.boingo.com/>
