On 5/28/04 2:06 PM, "John C. Welch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 5/28/04 1:03 PM, "Entourage:mac Talk"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> If I type my email in Word and insert a proper URL there, and send it out as
>> HTML mail through Entourage, it all works. But that's a horrible, kludgey
>> way to send email.
>> 
>> Perhaps you think it's unimportant, but the lack of that basic feature has
>> caused me problems this week. I'm sending out political fund raising emails
>> to some friends and associates, and want to include a hyperlinke to the
>> donation page that specifically ties into my KerryCore account... But it's a
>> big, long awkward URL. Good usability would let me just put "Click here to
>> donate," but I can't. And that's frustrating.
>> 
>> When something is so frustrating that I walk into the other room and use
>> Outlook (gag, spit) on my Windows computer to send the email, that's a big
>> deal to me. Because I hate using Outlook. It's not nearly as good a program
>> as Entourage -- but its a more functional program when it comes to authoring
>> email.
> 
> Nonsense. There's no RFC requirement for href links in email, and some
> damned good reasons not to allow them. (web bugs, etc.)

I'm sorry... RFC?

> I know a few places that are rejecting emails with complex URL links for the
> reason that you cannot tell what that URL really links to without viewing
> the raw message source or clicking the link. As well, there are services,
> like TinyURL that are designed to work around overly long URLS and they do
> so quite well. If the only reason you can't use Microsoft Entourage is
> because it can't do complex links well then you're going to be pissed at
> many mail clients on the Mac.

I do use Microsoft Entourage. I find it indispensable for managing my email
(custom views, dozens of categories, now the project center, etc). But this
inability is annoying as hell. People keep proposing effort-intensive
workarounds, when there's

Of course, this isn't the most egregious flaw in Entourage X, from my
perspective. The inability to set a per-email reply to: function, when even
pathetic little Mail.app can, is really bad, and keeps us from using
Entourage on some computers in my office. I haven't had the need for such a
function recently, but still can't seem to find a non-accountwide setting
for it anywhere in Entourage 2004.

> 
> As well, what's so kludgy about using Word? You get far better formatting
> options, and if you have Microsoft Entourage 2004, you have Word too.

I looked into it, but I've found that a font I consider readable in Word is
massively too large in Entourage -- for some reason 12 pt Trebuchet MS in
Word turns into a huge font when sent over as HTML into Entourage. I can
write in 10 pt Trebuchet, but I find that a strain to work with in my
preferred view for Word (page view at 100%).

So again, it's standing on my head to do what Outlook for Windows users do
with one menu selection in their otherwise-inferior PIM software.

Kirk


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