Bob,

 Off the top of my bead, I would suggest the following for a site definition. A 
single patch of old-growth forest can be considered a site with its boundaries 
defined as the boundary between old growth and younger forests.  Multiple 
patches of old-growth forests that are connected by an unbroken contiguous 
patch of younger forests can be considered as a single site, with each 
individual patch considered a sub-site. Otherwise a site should be considered 
to be all of the forest young and old in a contiguous patch.  Contiguous 
patches are those not separated or interrupted by man-made or natural openings 
or breaks.  Dirt or gravel roads and secondary roads should not be considered 
as a break in a contiguous patch, while broader or divided highways can be 
considered as breaks.  Sub-sites may be defined by topographic, physiographic, 
or other distinguishable boundaries within the context of a larger site.  The 
definition of a site should not bee simply arbitrary, but needs to be somewhat 
pragmatic as well in its application.  

Bob, you have suggested in the past that the definition of a site be left to 
the individual describing it.  We have brought up this subject before:  
http://www.nativetreesociety.org/measure/site_definition.htm


At that time, Lee indicated the following hierarchical organization he used for 
studies from
small to large spatial scale:

Tree

Neighborhood, a grove of adjacent trees within a stand.


Stand, an area of one forest type with fairly uniform soils and disturbance
history within a site.


Site, a cluster of similar stands (i.e. pine stands on moraines, lowland
stands along a river, dwarf forests along a ridgetop).


Study area, a cluster of sites that may be very heterogeneous and have
several forest types, usually defined by political boundaries (i.e. Great
Smoky Mountains, MTSF, Porcupine Mountains).


Region, a large are defined by political or biogeographical boundaries
(i.e. the Southern Appalachians, New England, deciduous forest biome).



I don't think that my suggestions above are inconsistent with Lee's 
organizational structure, although I tried to suggest some more specific or 
pragmatic boundary definitions.  I also would add a category of sub-site 
between the Stand and Site categories simply for data organization purposes.

Ed Frank



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   The challenge is to decide on what represents a separate site. Maybe we can 
think through a site definition criteria. As an example of what I find myself 
up against, fairly large properties like Mt Tom State Reservation, MTSF, MSF, 
etc. have clusters (sites?) of white pine that are sufficiently separated from 
one another to warrant separate treatment especially if thinking at the stand 
level. MTSF has at least 4 distinct pine areas and one could argue for more. 
However, it is convenient to think of MTSF as a single site. I constantly 
waffle on places like Mohawk. I'm sure Dale has the same concerns with Cook 
Forest State Park. How should we define a site?

  Bob   
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