Kouta, Dang, if I can do it anybody can! Calculators rule!
JP On Dec 22, 5:55 pm, Michael Davie <[email protected]> wrote: > That's great, Kouta! I'll also urge you to get a laser and clinometer, > it's quite easy to measure trees, and fun as well. > > On Dec 22, 4:15 am, James Parton <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Kouta!, > > > WoW, what trees! I have never saw Norway Spruce here that big. The > > European Ash and Sycamore Maple are nice too. The twisted trunk of the > > Maple resembles our Sugar Maples somewhat. > > > If you had a laser and clinometer you could do some amazing work. A > > measuring ENT in Europe. Of course that tape is useful too. > > > Great post! > > > James Parton > > > On Dec 21, 10:17 am, "Kouta Räsänen" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > ENTS, > > > > Norway Spruce (Picea abies) reaches its maximal size in the southernmost > > > part of its natural range in Balkan peninsula. It grows there in > > > mountains at elevations from about 1000 metres (3000 ft) upwards. The > > > tallest measured specimen has been 63 metres (207 feet) tall in Sutjeska > > > National Park in Bosnia and Herzegovina (source: Leibundgut (1982): > > > "Europäische Urwälder der Bergstufe" (="European Ancient Forests of the > > > Mountain Level")). A part of that national park is one of the very few > > > truly old growth forests in Central and Southern Europe. Unfortunately, > > > the forests of Bosnia are now largely off-limits due to land mines from > > > the Bosnian War. However, Bosnia's southern neighbour, Montenegro, is > > > completely safe. Only 10-20 miles to the southeast from Sutjeska National > > > Park, in the Montenegrian side, there is Durmitor National Park. In this > > > park, there is at an elevation of 5000-5200 feet a small area which > > > should be "Prasumski Rezervat" = "primeval forest reserve". I explored > > > this area thoroughly last summer, but to my disappointment the forest was > > > in fact not primeval: there are plenty of stumps and young forest. > > > However, some individual Norway spruce trees were big and extremely tall, > > > taller trees than I had ever seen in Europe. I would not be surprised if > > > some of them was 60 metres tall, but unfortunately, I have not found any > > > measurements. I attached a photo of the base of one of these tall spruces > > > (Picea_abies_Durmitor). CBH is not particularly large. In the photo, the > > > tree on the left behind me is Fagus sylvatica. This forest is dominated > > > by Picea, Fagus and Abies alba. > > > > So, there is not truly old growth forest in Durmitor National Park. But > > > an another park in Montenegro, Biogradska Gora National Park, contains > > > real old growth forest, one of the very few such places in Southern > > > Europe. The forest has been protected in 1878, and it was already then a > > > very natural forest. There I found some even bigger spruces, although > > > they were not so tall as the spruces in Durmitor. The spruce in the photo > > > Picea_abies grows at an elevation of 1230 metres (4030 feet). Isn't it > > > almost like a Sitka spruce! The foliage in front of the spruce is of > > > Abies alba. This part of the forest is dominated by Picea, Abies, Fagus > > > sylvatica and Acer pseudoplatanus. > > > > I attached also some photos of other big trees in Biogradska Gora > > > National Park: > > > > Acer pseudoplatanus grows near a lakeshore in Fagus sylvatica -dominated > > > forest. The other trees in the photo are Fagus trees. > > > > The two Fraxinus excelsior photos are about the same tree. The tree grows > > > at the edge of mesic Fagus forest and wet forest dominated by Fraxinus > > > and Alnus incana. > > > > Unfortunately, I do not usually measure trees. Sometimes I have carried a > > > measuring tape and measured CBHs but this time I did not. You can use me > > > as a scale; I am 187 centimetres. ;) > > > > Kouta > > > > Picea_abies_Durmitor.jpg > > > 185KViewDownload > > > > Picea_abies.jpg > > > 307KViewDownload > > > > Fraxinus_excelsior2.jpg > > > 183KViewDownload > > > > Fraxinus_excelsior1.jpg > > > 123KViewDownload > > > > Acer_pseudoplatanus.jpg > > > 135KViewDownload --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org You are subscribed to the Google Groups "ENTSTrees" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
