Will,

You are certainly right about climbing and coring.  I was thinking about a big 
old tree that has fallen - it would be accessible and could be measured, cut 
up, and sampled extensively without harming a live tree.   Perhaps an old 
growth tree ... 

Ed

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Will Blozan 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:19 PM
  Subject: [ENTS] Re: Radial versus volume growth


  Ed,

   

  A climber with an increment corer can do it. Important work that should be 
funded. I strongly feel trees grow faster (put on more wood per year) in their 
“old age”. Cambial area greatly increases and even small increments can add up 
fast. BVP talks about it in his “Forest Giants” book. Misconceptions abound, 
and ENTS can do great service to educate otherwise. In the face of atmospheric 
carbon excess a study would be most appropriate.

   

  Will F. Blozan

  President, Eastern Native Tree Society

  President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc.


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  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Edward Frank
  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:04 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: [ENTS] Re: Radial versus volume growth

   

  Bob,

   

  I do see the approach you are taking. I am considering it.  The previous 
notes were just ideas off the top of my head on the subject.  The basic premise 
you are looking at is that tree A over time will change to be the height, 
girth, and form  of tree B over time.  (Actually it is the converse of that 
arguing tree B was the same size, shape and girth as form as A at some point in 
the past.)  On an individual basis that is an unlikely proposition, but as a 
statistical set of average trees, the arguments would appear to be valid.  If 
you had a big tree that was cut down.  And you were able to slice the trunk at 
various heights.  You could determine the the girth at a given point at a given 
time at a given height by counting backwards from the outermost ring. You could 
determine at what age the tree reached the height of that cut, and you could 
reconstruct the form of a particular tree and its volume at any give point in 
time.  The closer the slices together, the more detail you would have and the 
better you could reconstruct the tree in the past.  

   

  Ed Frank

   

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