Neil, Wow, what a great story about the the post oaks in Pelham Bay Park. Did you find out some good climate history info from those cores? But, more importantly, were the mosquitoes really that bad? I've just started using Barnard's field guide. He writes that there are post oaks in Pelham, but doesn't show where they are since they are not on the nature trail...
That's interesting about the NYBG Forest trees showing the open-grown traits. There are gaps created by trails and the river, fires, vandalism, trampling of undergrowth, etc. And there's lots of comfy space along the edges. So, lots of opportunity to spread and thrive. Does that seem right? To my knowledge, the oldest trees in the garden are 250 + ; a red oak (along the Forest main trail) and a black oak (in the Rock Garden). Thank you for sharing the link to your experience out there. And I like the imagery of the Revolution as a way to help describe how old some trees are. I'm stealing it for this winter id booklet I am working on! Jenny On Mar 1, 8:36 pm, neil <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Jenny, ENTS, > > I've walked around the NYBG Forest a bit with Ned Barnard some time > ago. The trees are large, but have some open-grown traits, which might > suggest they are not as old as them might appear to be. But, for NYC, > they are cool! I keep hearing the hemlock were old-growth. > > I've not made it to Inwood yet, but here there are some large trees > up there. > > It is hard to say what the oldest trees are in NYC. Likely it it some > forgotten Nyssa on the edge of some wetland. > > However, I was lucky enough to be led to some post oaks on Hunter > Island in the Bronx by Ned Barnard. It turned out the oldest > individuals were likely saplings or seedlings when the Brits occupied > the island during the Revolutionary War. Here is an article about > sampling on the island back > then:http://www.mrbellersneighborhood.com/story.php?storyid=1526 > > neil > > On Mar 1, 7:07 pm, Larry <[email protected]> wrote: > > > James, Awesome! I didn't know that. After seeing Biltmore, I can > > imagine what Central Park must be like. Larry --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
