Don, 



   Yes, I do remember you speaking of the GRS densiometer. When I get through 
this little medical problem and back out in the woods, I plan to add the 
instrument to my collection. I think Ed has his own design in mind. Either way, 
the time has come to expand our inventory of tree an forest measuring gadgetry. 
Thanks for reminding me of about the densiometer. 



Bob  




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "DON BERTOLETTE" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 2:51:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [ENTS] Re: Problem#15 

Bob- 
I am not surprised that in the quest for tree superlatives that Larry's live 
oaks has you thinking they may be a contender for the humongous crown category. 
Higher order crown measurements might be in order. Some thoughts: 

You may recall me plugging the GRS densiometer 


        
        GRS Densiometer 
This instrument has an angled sighting mirror and offset leveling vials which 
allow vertical sampling of forest canopies for a variety of coverage 
characteristics such as: canopy structure, coverage by tree size and species, 
and percentage of conifer/hardwood. Constructed of durable PVC material. 
in earlier posts, maybe not. But as one who used it often to determine canopy 
closure, I think it would be ideal, accurate, lightweight, and small enough for 
every man's gear bag.  I envision a tree nerd with a GRS in one hand shooting 
the edge of a crown, a GPS in the other as he/she traverses around the edge of 
the crown. 

Another consideration, would require a 3-D visualization software, but consider 
the same tree nerd roaming around the live oak, shooting an array of vertical 
triangles that 'map' the crown (instead of seeking only high point, seek crown 
representative points, that would better build the crown model. 

-Don 


Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 01:58:11 +0000 
From: [email protected] 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: [ENTS] Re: Problem#15 


Larry, 
  
     I believe that those huge southern live oaks that you are 
documenting signal the need for us to expand our set of measurements - 
principally for the biggest of the trees that we document. Our challenge is to 
choose a set of measurements that can be done in the field and that convey the 
size of the tree. What do you think of the area of the crown projected onto the 
ground? I have an idea of how best to collect the field data and run the 
numbers through a spreadsheet to get the area covered, but don't want to pursue 
development of the process if the rest of you don't see merit to the idea. I'm 
anxious to also hear from Ed, Will, Dale, Don, Don, et al. on the idea. 
  
Bob 
   
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry" <[email protected]> 
To: "ENTSTrees" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 4:41:48 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [ENTS] Re: Problem#15 


Bob,   Thanks for the formula. This is some good stuff Bob!  Larry 








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