George,

Yes, I'd say old-growth stands are rare. There probably weren't any "pure"
tuliptree dominated groves as they associated with other species regularly.
The pure groves nowadays are from large disturbances such as clearing or
wind throw.

The soils in these rich coves were ideal for farming and the timber of high
value, thus they were cleared. Many fine groves are preserved in the Smokies
(Kalanu Prong, Buck Fork, Indian Camp Creek) and of course Joyce Kilmer is a
well known site in western NC. I suspect most mid-Atlantic and s.
Appalachian states had some giants.

In the Smokies you can generally bank on at least a 12' cbh tuliptree in
nearly every rich, uncut cove forest. Many will have a 14 footer and the
larger coves 15-16 footers. It takes a rare combination of site conditions
to produce an 18 footer and rarer still to harbor a 20+ footer.

The striped maple, unfortunately, will likely be a victim of collateral
damage from falling hemlocks.

Will F. Blozan
President, Eastern Native Tree Society
President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
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Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 11:24 PM
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Subject: [ENTS] Re: Kalanu Prong, Greenbrier, TN GRSM 4-21-2009


Will,

I have to agree with James, your trips are awesome!  Are old-growth stands
of tulips rare?  I think here in Pa. there are two known tulip poplars that
are over 20'.  Do you think the death of the hemlocks will affect the growth
of the stripped maple?  Keep up the good work.

George 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
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Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 9:53 PM
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Subject: [ENTS] Re: Kalanu Prong, Greenbrier, TN GRSM 4-21-2009
Importance: High


Will,

Great Looking tuliptrees.  It is too bad the beetle release did not have any

real effect.  The incorporation of small maps with the reports is a great 
practice.  I guess I fee l more like I understad what is being described if 
I can see a map of the area.

Ed 






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