Barry,
 
If you, or anyone that you may know are wood-workers perhaps the Batso State 
Forest will let you have a couple of  links from these trees.
 
I don't care what the State forester says. These trees may have been in rough 
shape, but were not hazard trees.

Are you familiar with the criteria that constitutes a hazardous tree?  If so, 
why would you not qualify these trees as hazardous, based on what has been 
described for us so far on this board?

Steve Springer


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From: [email protected] on behalf of Barry Caselli
Sent: Thu 5/21/2009 5:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ENTS] Update: Batso, NJ Oak Removals


Jenny and all ENTS,
My dad contacted me on my Nextel while I was at work today, to tell me that one 
of the oaks had been completely cut down.
So I detoured there after work and took some pictures. I also attempted to 
count the rings as best as possible on the one that had been cut. I stopped 
counting at about 170 to 175, since there was no center. I estimate that the 
age is between 180 and 200.
 
I don't care what the State forester says. These trees may have been in rough 
shape, but were not hazard trees. When they say the trees were dropping limbs 
during big storms, I believe the word "twigs" should be substituted for 
"limbs". Also, how can they be considered hazard trees when they were in an 
area where few people ever walk? As I said in an earlier post, this tree that 
has been reduced to a pile of wood had a CBH of 13.5 feet. Both of these trees 
are (or I should say *were*) most likely the largest trees in all of Wharton 
State Forest. 
I'm attaching today's photos, plus one of the photos from my April post (that's 
DSCO5424a) The tree in that picture is the one that's in pieces now, the one 
with the 13.5 foot CBH. 
 
It's so sad...

--- On Wed, 5/6/09, JennyNYC <[email protected]> wrote:



        From: JennyNYC <[email protected]>
        Subject: [ENTS] Batso, NJ Oak Removals
        To: "ENTSTrees" <[email protected]>
        Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 9:39 AM
        
        

        Barry, ENTS,
        
        I  finally got a response from Michele Buckley at  NJ State Parks
        Dept, about those oaks being removed from Batsto:
        
        
        "Jennifer - I forwarded your concerns to the Superintendent of Wharton
        regarding the trees and this is the response I received:
        
        'These trees were identified by the park staff as hazard trees.  These
        trees were dropping limbs during snow storms and times of heavy wind.
        Gypsy moths also took a toll on the trees the past few years.  The
        limbs were removed in anticipation of removing the entire tree/stump
        at a later date.  (We did this in-house to save $$.)  We are presently
        awaiting a quote from Asplundh, our state contract, for the removal of
        the stumps, should funding be available.  Once removed, we hope/plan
        to plant replacement trees in their place, as we have done throughout
        the village.'
        
        Just as an FYI.  More trees are scheduled to come down soon...and we
        had our state foresters out to look at the trees prior to removal, and
        they agreed that they needed to be removed.
        
        Michele"
        
        Any thoughts?
        
        Jenny
        
        
        





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