Rot in a tree seldom, in and of itself, indicates that the tree is dangerous to 
the public. Most large trees have rot. They may have wanted the tree down for 
other reasons and just gave that excuse.
Joe
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: DON BERTOLETTE 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:32 PM
  Subject: [ENTS] Re: Update: Batso, NJ Oak Removals


  Barry-
  I don't know that the State Forester/arborists were much wrong...there are 
serious signs of decay and rot in the base, as depicted in photos of rounds 
from the base of the tree...
  -Don


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  Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 15:27:30 -0700
  From: [email protected]
  Subject: [ENTS] Update: Batso, NJ Oak Removals
  To: [email protected]

        Jenny and all ENTS,
        My dad contacted me on my Nextel while I was at work today, to tell me 
that one of the oaks had been completely cut down.
        So I detoured there after work and took some pictures. I also attempted 
to count the rings as best as possible on the one that had been cut. I stopped 
counting at about 170 to 175, since there was no center. I estimate that the 
age is between 180 and 200.

        I don't care what the State forester says. These trees may have been in 
rough shape, but were not hazard trees. When they say the trees were dropping 
limbs during big storms, I believe the word "twigs" should be substituted for 
"limbs". Also, how can they be considered hazard trees when they were in an 
area where few people ever walk? As I said in an earlier post, this tree that 
has been reduced to a pile of wood had a CBH of 13.5 feet. Both of these trees 
are (or I should say *were*) most likely the largest trees in all of Wharton 
State Forest. 
        I'm attaching today's photos, plus one of the photos from my April post 
(that's DSCO5424a) The tree in that picture is the one that's in pieces now, 
the one with the 13.5 foot CBH. 

        It's so sad...

        --- On Wed, 5/6/09, JennyNYC <[email protected]> wrote:


          From: JennyNYC <[email protected]>
          Subject: [ENTS] Batso, NJ Oak Removals
          To: "ENTSTrees" <[email protected]>
          Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 9:39 AM



          Barry, ENTS,

          I  finally got a response from Michele Buckley at  NJ State Parks
          Dept, about those oaks being removed from Batsto:


          "Jennifer - I forwarded your concerns to the Superintendent of Wharton
          regarding the trees and this is the response I received:

          'These trees were identified by the park staff as hazard trees.  These
          trees were dropping limbs during snow storms and times of heavy wind.
          Gypsy moths also took a toll on the trees the past few years.  The
          limbs were removed in anticipation of removing the entire tree/stump
          at a later date.  (We did this in-house to save $$.)  We are presently
          awaiting a quote from Asplundh, our state contract, for the removal of
          the stumps, should funding be available.  Once removed, we hope/plan
          to plant replacement trees in their place, as we have done throughout
          the village.'

          Just as an FYI.  More trees are scheduled to come down soon...and we
          had our state foresters out to look at the trees prior to removal, and
          they agreed that they needed to be removed.

          Michele"

          Any thoughts?

          Jenny


       
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