Neil,

Droughts are more often the result of a cold, not warm climate so if the
planet warms a bit precipitation will increase rather than decrease. 
Of course precipitation patterns could change: some areas could get
wetter and other areas could get drier. If we are in store for some
climate changes, it most likely will be gradual enough so that forest
ecosystems and human populations will be able to adjust without much
problem. 

Mike

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Subject: [ENTS] Re: High elevation forest response to climate change and
other factors


ENTS,

 Lee is correct in saying that there are many methods available to
test for and then reduce the many factors influencing ring width.
These methods have been in development for nearly a century now. And,
while it is a well-established science, we are still coming up with
new methods to further reconstruct environmental history.

 Couple quick thoughts on some of the idea in the thread here:

 - first, while lab studies do show an increase in plant growth when
CO2 levels are immediately doubled, there is very little evidence or
often contradictory evidence indicating CO2 fertilization impacts on
natural trees. That isn't to say it isn't happening. It suggests
either a) we do not know what we are doing yet/how to detect the
influence of elevated CO2, b) the signal is so weak that it is
overwhelmed by other factors, c) that only in certain growing
conditions does elevated CO2 influence tree growth or d) something
else is happening [i ran out of ideas here].

 - people in the past have looked at global tree growth at latitudinal
treeline sites, sites where global warming drives increased ring
widths, removed the 'climate signal' to look for a residual increase
in ring widths through time; a  residual trend that might be the
result of elevated CO2. that analysis revealed no trend and the
authors suggested elevated CO2 was not an important factor of tree
growth at these sites [but, this result could come back to a) above]

 - there is an incredible network of tree ring records 700 to 1000+
yrs in length in the western US, including Henri's 2000 yr record from
New Mexico. An investigation looking at the percent of annual drought
in this region does indeed suggest that the recent drought is becoming
more severe than most droughts of the last 600 yrs. however, this same
record indicates that the region was quite dry from 900-1300 A.D. If a
similar drought hit today, well civilization would be altered
significantly. you can find the abstract of this paper here:
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/306/5698/1015

 the data set from which this analysis is derived from is publicly
available here: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/pdsi.html

 in fact, an update of this data set, V2, is available here. You can
make maps of drought from this data set, too.

 neil


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