Gary:

Red pine is a difficult species to follow in the fossil record, because 
its pollen is not differentiated from jack pine. However, pollen viewer 
does show the millennial changes in distribution of red plus jack pine.  
They made the most northward retreat at the peak of the Holocene warm 
period, about 7,000 to 5,000 ybp, and then started advancing south and 
west during the last few thousand years. That advance has now halted due 
to habitat conversion, Diplodia blight, fire suppression, and reversal 
of the natural cooling trend in the climate. We do expect red pine to be 
one of the most sensitive to species to warming climate, but so far 
habitat conversion and Diplodia have caused greater retreat than the 
climate.

Lee

Gary A Beluzo wrote:
> The USFS distribution map for red pine shows the northern half of MA 
> with scattered coverage.  I wonder if red pine continues to retreat 
> during this interglacial and if anthropogenic global warming has 
> accelerated the march northward.
>
> Gary
>
> Prof. Gary A. Beluzo
> Systems Ecologist
> Holyoke Comm College
> 303 Homestead Ave
> Holyoke, MA. 01040
>
>
> On Jul 31, 2009, at 8:30 AM, [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Mike,
>>
>>        Tad Zebryk, formerly of Harvard Forest cored red pines on the 
>> upper slopes in Ice Glen in Stockbridge. We got 211 years for our 
>> oldest pine. Others were just a few years younger. Dave Orwig at 
>> Harvard Forest cored red pines on the Mount Tom escarpment and got 
>> comparable ages to Ice Glen red pines. There are old red pines at 
>> High Ledges near Shelburne Falls. There is also some red pine on 
>> Monument Mountain. The species is definitely native to Massachusetts, 
>> hugging the high, dry places as you suspect. 
>>        Red pine grows on other ledge environments on Mount Tom, 
>> although not much. I expect the Natural Heritage Program knows of 
>> most of there whereabouts. All these spots are photographic 
>> objectives of mine. 
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Leonard" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Cc: "Joseph Zorzin" <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>, "Claudia Hurley" 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, "Stephen 
>> Kaiser" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, "Mike 
>> Ryan" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, "Sharl 
>> Heller" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 6:44:21 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: [ENTS] Re: Mt Tom Adventures
>>
>> Will,
>>
>> Thanks for sending those images. OK I think I remember seeing these 
>> trees when I hiked the ridge.
>>
>> The controversy about red pine began when our state agency DCR 
>> started to clearcut the red pine plantations which were planted in 
>> the 1930s – 1940s. One of the stated reasons for their removal was 
>> that red pine is non-native to MA but the silvics range map does show 
>> its range extending into western MA. Now when DCR wants to clearcut 
>> these plantations they say the red pine was planted “off-site”. Well 
>> it is true that native red pine is definitely a rare thing to see 
>> around here but we shouldn’t be so quick to wipe out all the planted 
>> red pine. The exception would be in the pine barrens of Myles 
>> Standish in SE MA where most should be removed. In other areas 
>> modified shelterwoods can be used which retain high quality 
>> “standards” for aesthetic purposes.
>>
>> Red pine is an awesome tree except it is not too resistant to snow 
>> and ice damage. The red pine plantations around the Worcester 
>> reservoirs in Paxton and Rutland, for example, were devastated by 
>> last year’s ice storm snapped off like matchsticks. But if it has 
>> room to grow throughout its life it can become pretty impressive. 
>> Most likely any native red pine here could only survive on dry 
>> exposed sites like this where there is less competition and the area 
>> is prone to disturbance like fire or windthrow.
>>
>> Have you or Bob cored these trees? If so, how old are they?
>>
>> The Mt. Tom Range is definitely worthy of being designated as a 
>> Forest Reserve. How about showing an image of the extraordinary 
>> basalt columns?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>             -----Original Message-----
>>             *From:* [email protected]
>>             <mailto:[email protected]>
>>             [mailto:[email protected]]* On Behalf Of* Will
>>             Blozan
>>             *Sent:* Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:57 PM
>>             *To:* [email protected]
>>             <mailto:[email protected]>
>>             *Subject:* [ENTS] Re: Mt Tom Adventures
>>
>>
>>
>>             Mike,
>>
>>             These are some shots I took back in 2004.
>>
>>             Will F. Blozan
>>
>>             President, Eastern Native Tree Society
>>
>>             President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc.
>>
>>             *From:* [email protected]
>>             <mailto:[email protected]>
>>             [mailto:[email protected]]* On Behalf Of* Mike
>>             Leonard
>>             *Sent:* Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:07 PM
>>             *To:* [email protected]
>>             <mailto:[email protected]>
>>             *Cc:* 'Belchetz-Swenson, Sarah'; 'Carr, Robert';
>>             'Dittmer, Paul'; 'Davis, John'; 'Goodrich, John';
>>             'Heller, Sharl'; 'Hurley, Claudia'; 'Kaiser, Amy';
>>             'Jakuc, Denis'; 'Morrison, Laurie Sanders & Fred'; 'Neil,
>>             Rick'; 'Seale, Doug'; 'Weiss, Nancy'; 'Weil, Phoebe';
>>             'White, Richard'; 'Zorzin, Joseph'; 'Williams, Bill';
>>             [email protected]
>>             <mailto:[email protected]>;
>>             [email protected]
>>             <mailto:[email protected]>
>>             *Subject:* [ENTS] Re: Mt Tom Adventures
>>
>>             Bob,
>>
>>             I was real interested in that dwarf old growth native red
>>             pine you wrote about on Mt. Tom. Have you photographed
>>             that? That would be something of a rarity.
>>
>>             Yes I’ve hiked through Mt Tom’s gorgeous hemlock forest.
>>             Does DCR have any strategy to protect it from the HWA?
>>
>>             Mike
>>
>>             _www.northquabbinforestry.com_
>>             <http://www.northquabbinforestry.com>
>>
>>                                     -----Original Message-----
>>                                     *From:*
>>                                     [email protected]
>>                                     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                                     [ <mailto:[email protected]>
>>
>
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