Lee,

Thank you, enlightening as usual.

Gary

Prof. Gary A. Beluzo
Systems Ecologist
Holyoke Comm College
303 Homestead Ave
Holyoke, MA. 01040


On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Lee Frelich <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Gary:
>
> Red pine is a difficult species to follow in the fossil record,  
> because
> its pollen is not differentiated from jack pine. However, pollen  
> viewer
> does show the millennial changes in distribution of red plus jack  
> pine.
> They made the most northward retreat at the peak of the Holocene warm
> period, about 7,000 to 5,000 ybp, and then started advancing south and
> west during the last few thousand years. That advance has now halted  
> due
> to habitat conversion, Diplodia blight, fire suppression, and reversal
> of the natural cooling trend in the climate. We do expect red pine  
> to be
> one of the most sensitive to species to warming climate, but so far
> habitat conversion and Diplodia have caused greater retreat than the
> climate.
>
> Lee
>
> Gary A Beluzo wrote:
>> The USFS distribution map for red pine shows the northern half of MA
>> with scattered coverage.  I wonder if red pine continues to retreat
>> during this interglacial and if anthropogenic global warming has
>> accelerated the march northward.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> Prof. Gary A. Beluzo
>> Systems Ecologist
>> Holyoke Comm College
>> 303 Homestead Ave
>> Holyoke, MA. 01040
>>
>>
>> On Jul 31, 2009, at 8:30 AM, [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>>       Tad Zebryk, formerly of Harvard Forest cored red pines on the
>>> upper slopes in Ice Glen in Stockbridge. We got 211 years for our
>>> oldest pine. Others were just a few years younger. Dave Orwig at
>>> Harvard Forest cored red pines on the Mount Tom escarpment and got
>>> comparable ages to Ice Glen red pines. There are old red pines at
>>> High Ledges near Shelburne Falls. There is also some red pine on
>>> Monument Mountain. The species is definitely native to  
>>> Massachusetts,
>>> hugging the high, dry places as you suspect.
>>>       Red pine grows on other ledge environments on Mount Tom,
>>> although not much. I expect the Natural Heritage Program knows of
>>> most of there whereabouts. All these spots are photographic
>>> objectives of mine.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mike Leonard" <[email protected]  
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Cc: "Joseph Zorzin" <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>, "Claudia Hurley"
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, "Stephen
>>> Kaiser" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>,  
>>> "Mike
>>> Ryan" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, "Sharl
>>> Heller" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 6:44:21 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>>> Subject: [ENTS] Re: Mt Tom Adventures
>>>
>>> Will,
>>>
>>> Thanks for sending those images. OK I think I remember seeing these
>>> trees when I hiked the ridge.
>>>
>>> The controversy about red pine began when our state agency DCR
>>> started to clearcut the red pine plantations which were planted in
>>> the 1930s – 1940s. One of the stated reasons for their removal was
>>> that red pine is non-native to MA but the silvics range map does  
>>> show
>>> its range extending into western MA. Now when DCR wants to clearcut
>>> these plantations they say the red pine was planted “off-site”.  
>>> Well
>>> it is true that native red pine is definitely a rare thing to see
>>> around here but we shouldn’t be so quick to wipe out all the pla 
>>> nted
>>> red pine. The exception would be in the pine barrens of Myles
>>> Standish in SE MA where most should be removed. In other areas
>>> modified shelterwoods can be used which retain high quality
>>> “standards” for aesthetic purposes.
>>>
>>> Red pine is an awesome tree except it is not too resistant to snow
>>> and ice damage. The red pine plantations around the Worcester
>>> reservoirs in Paxton and Rutland, for example, were devastated by
>>> last year’s ice storm snapped off like matchsticks. But if it has
>>> room to grow throughout its life it can become pretty impressive.
>>> Most likely any native red pine here could only survive on dry
>>> exposed sites like this where there is less competition and the area
>>> is prone to disturbance like fire or windthrow.
>>>
>>> Have you or Bob cored these trees? If so, how old are they?
>>>
>>> The Mt. Tom Range is definitely worthy of being designated as a
>>> Forest Reserve. How about showing an image of the extraordinary
>>> basalt columns?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>            -----Original Message-----
>>>            *From:* [email protected]
>>>            <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>            [mailto:[email protected]]* On Behalf Of* Will
>>>            Blozan
>>>            *Sent:* Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:57 PM
>>>            *To:* [email protected]
>>>            <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>            *Subject:* [ENTS] Re: Mt Tom Adventures
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>            Mike,
>>>
>>>            These are some shots I took back in 2004.
>>>
>>>            Will F. Blozan
>>>
>>>            President, Eastern Native Tree Society
>>>
>>>            President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc.
>>>
>>>            *From:* [email protected]
>>>            <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>            [mailto:[email protected]]* On Behalf Of* Mike
>>>            Leonard
>>>            *Sent:* Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:07 PM
>>>            *To:* [email protected]
>>>            <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>            *Cc:* 'Belchetz-Swenson, Sarah'; 'Carr, Robert';
>>>            'Dittmer, Paul'; 'Davis, John'; 'Goodrich, John';
>>>            'Heller, Sharl'; 'Hurley, Claudia'; 'Kaiser, Amy';
>>>            'Jakuc, Denis'; 'Morrison, Laurie Sanders & Fred'; 'Neil,
>>>            Rick'; 'Seale, Doug'; 'Weiss, Nancy'; 'Weil, Phoebe';
>>>            'White, Richard'; 'Zorzin, Joseph'; 'Williams, Bill';
>>>            [email protected]
>>>            <mailto:[email protected]>;
>>>            [email protected]
>>>            <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>            *Subject:* [ENTS] Re: Mt Tom Adventures
>>>
>>>            Bob,
>>>
>>>            I was real interested in that dwarf old growth native red
>>>            pine you wrote about on Mt. Tom. Have you photographed
>>>            that? That would be something of a rarity.
>>>
>>>            Yes I’ve hiked through Mt Tom’s gorgeous hemlock for 
>>> est.
>>>            Does DCR have any strategy to protect it from the HWA?
>>>
>>>            Mike
>>>
>>>            _www.northquabbinforestry.com_
>>>            <http://www.northquabbinforestry.com>
>>>
>>>                                    -----Original Message-----
>>>                                    *From:*
>>>                                    [email protected]
>>>                                    <mailto:[email protected] 
>>> >
>>>                                    [ <mailto:[email protected] 
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>>
>
> >

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