Russ, are you having the same extremely wet weather as New England? This is 
probably the wettest June plus July in a very long time. I await to see what 
the totals are and how they compare to past years.
Joe
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  From: [email protected] 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 4:25 PM
  Subject: [ENTS] Re: rain and growth rates?


  Joe:

  Like you, I've probably looked at more that my share of stumps over the years 
but the topic brought up with your post is something I have pondered ad 
nauseam. 

  In terms of moisture, we have had growing seasons that have been all over the 
place during the past fifteen years in WV and I have been gathering information 
on a series of individual trees here at Crummies Creek that have given me a 
pretty good idea of how much growth rates can fluctuate from one year to 
another.

  In productive woodland where the dominant trees are vigorous and in a "free 
to grow" state, it is possible to see as much as a 50% increase in diameter 
growth for a single growing season but usually 25-30% is all that can be 
expected.

  The only major caveats are timing of the wet weather and whether the trees in 
the forest ever reached their slowing point in growth for the year...due to 
drought conditions or soil moisture depletion.  I seem to remember that a 
general rule of thumb in New England was that nearly all pine growth was done 
by late June or mid July when the glaciated soils were  finally being depleted 
of their moisture that was replenished by previous winters' snow.

  In this neck of the woods the same pretty much takes place.  If the weather 
is very dry in June all the rain you can't use in July probably won't increase 
growth.  However, with regular rain in May and June and well placed moisture in 
early July you might be able to see good growth well into August.

  I love seeing yellow poplar trees on bright sunny days in July and early 
August that follow a good soaking rain...the color of the leaves as they point 
toward the sky and shoot out new growth is an indication that they are happily 
growing.  The later in the season that this type of growth takes place the 
longer rapid diameter growth is likely to continue.  

  I think that in general terms it would be unlikely to expect more than a 
15-25% increase in growth because of a single wet growing season for an 
individual tree or average woodland.  However, if two wet years were to occur 
in succession it is extremely likely that the growth rate will increase again 
and could probably show an additional small increase with with three moist 
years in a row.  

  Russ




  -----Original Message-----
  From: Joseph Zorzin <[email protected]>
  To: ENTS <[email protected]>
  Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2009 2:41 pm
  Subject: [ENTS] rain and growth rates?


  Now that this is year is one of the wettest on record, at least in the 
northeast, just how much can we expect tree growth rings to reflect this fact? 
That is- if it rains twice as much as typical, during the growing season, will 
that result in a ring twice as wide? Probably not, but I wonder what sort of 
relationship there is between these 2 variables.

  I started thinking about this as I notice the trees in my backyard showing 
what appear to be greater growth at the top than previous years- especially 
noticeable on white and pitch pine leaders.

  Joe




  

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