Joe:

Moisture has been about average.? It was getting very dry around the end of 
June and we had to water our garden twice in July.? Today we had 3 inches of 
rain but for most of the summer the rain has been spaced out really well with 
an inch or so each week from a couple of small storms or fronts.? We are 
nowhere near any records but I have enjoyed that for nearly all of July we bare 
hit 80 degrees?most days.? 

The worst of the wet weather that was training across the northeast in June was 
following a track about 100 miles north of where I live in central West Virginia

It has been a very good growing season.

I also agree that too wet can stop growth as quickly as too dry.

Russ


-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Zorzin <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2009 4:31 pm
Subject: [ENTS] Re: rain and growth rates?



Russ, are you having the same extremely wet weather as New England? This is 
probably the wettest June plus July in a very long time. I await to see what 
the totals are and how they compare to past years.

Joe


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From: [email protected] 

To: [email protected] 

Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 4:25 PM

Subject: [ENTS] Re: rain and growth rates?



Joe:

Like you, I've probably looked at more that my share of stumps over the years 
but the topic brought up with your post is something I have pondered ad 
nauseam. 

In terms of moisture, we have had growing seasons that have been all over the 
place during the past fifteen years in WV and I have been gathering information 
on a series of individual trees?here at Crummies Creek that have given me a 
pretty good idea of how much growth rates can?fluctuate from one year to 
another.

In?productive woodland where the dominant?trees are vigorous and in a "free to 
grow" state, it is possible to see as much as a 50% increase in diameter growth 
for a single growing season but usually 25-30% is all that can be expected.

The only major caveats are timing of the wet weather and whether the trees in 
the forest ever reached their slowing point in growth for the year...due to 
drought conditions or soil moisture depletion.? I seem to remember that a 
general rule of thumb in New England was that nearly all pine growth was done 
by late June or mid July when the glaciated soils were ?finally being depleted 
of their moisture that was replenished by previous winters' snow.

In this neck of the woods the same pretty much takes place.? If the weather is 
very dry in June all the rain you can't use in July probably won't increase 
growth.? However, with regular rain in May and June and well placed moisture in 
early July you might be able to see good growth well into August.

I love seeing yellow poplar trees on bright sunny days in?July and early?August 
that follow a good soaking rain...the color of?the leaves as they point toward 
the sky and shoot out new growth is an indication that they are happily 
growing.? The later in the season that this type of growth takes place the 
longer rapid diameter growth is likely to continue.? 

I think that in general terms it would be unlikely to expect more than a 15-25% 
increase in growth because of a single wet growing season for an individual 
tree or average woodland.? However, if two wet years were to occur in 
succession it is extremely likely that the growth rate will increase again and 
could probably?show an additional small?increase with with three moist years?in 
a row.? 

Russ




-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Zorzin <[email protected]>
To: ENTS <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2009 2:41 pm
Subject: [ENTS] rain and growth rates?



Now that this is year is one of the wettest on record, at least in the 
northeast, just how much can we expect tree growth rings to reflect this fact? 
That is- if it rains twice as much as typical, during the growing season, will 
that result in a ring twice as wide? Probably not, but I wonder what sort of 
relationship there is between these 2 variables.

?

I started thinking about this as I notice the trees in my backyard showing what 
appear to be greater growth at the top than previous years- especially 
noticeable on white and pitch pine leaders.

?

Joe











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