The tree I was referring to is on fairly rich soil, so I agree it's  
not an apples to apples comparison.  And if you can see the same lower  
limb branching in the photos than case closed.

On Jul 29, 2009, at 10:34 PM, Barry Caselli wrote:

> Thank you for one more attempt. I didn't even expect anyone to try  
> counting in the center where the rotted wood is.
> As for the age of the tree, it's a well-known fact that all the old  
> trees around the Batsto Mansion were there and were large back when  
> Joseph Wharton lived there. They looked almost the same as they do  
> now. He moved in in the 1870s. His photos clearly show the same  
> trees. Anyway, I thought it would be neat to actually count the  
> rings. Maybe someone in the park service will shave off a layer of  
> the stump for me. I don't know. A fresh cut would make it a lot  
> easier.
> I was just thinking that with the poor soil on the site, the rings  
> would be very narrow. Great age is possible. The soil there is very  
> gravelly. Most pine barrens soil is either sandy or gravelly anyway.
> Barry
>
> --- On Wed, 7/29/09, Randy Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> From: Randy Brown <[email protected]>
> Subject: [ENTS] Re: giant Buttonwood, pt. 2- the stump
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 7:17 PM
>
> I loaded it into an image editor so I could zoom into it and made a  
> dodgy effort.  I got ~117 clear rings I marked with red dots.  But  
> like lee said the rotted area is a real head scratcher.  The wood is  
> clearly separating along annual rings.  The question is wether it's  
> separated along -every- annual ring or just some of them.
>
> We had a similar sized sycamore tree in the town where I grew up  
> that they said was planted in the 1880s.  I measured it last year ~  
> 15' cbh x 108' tall. So it's not impossible
> the tree grew up since the historic picture was taken.  Anyway I  
> attached the picture so you all can see how far out to lunch I am:
>
> <DSC02827-c2.jpg>
>
> On Jul 28, 2009, at 8:34 PM, Barry Caselli wrote:
>
>> Okay folks. Here's the high-rez photo of part of the stump. It goes  
>> from the edge to the center. If anyone feels like attempting to  
>> count rings, be my guest. It may or may not be possible. I realize  
>> the wood is degraded in the center, and rings can't be counted  
>> there at all.
>> See part the post immediately before this for what the tree looked  
>> like.
>> Thanks,
>> Barry
>>
>> >>
>> <DSC02827.JPG>
>


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