that link to my video at the bottom of my last message isn't going to work because that's what happens when you use HTML in email- so now that I turned off HTML, try http://vimeo.com/5876075 in case you're interested in a boring video - the purpose of which isn't to show anything special, just to show that it's possible and not too difficult to video tape someone standing in front of a tree, which I intend to do for Bob Leverett. Joe
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Zorzin" <[email protected]> To: "Weiss, Nancy" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Cc: "Steve Harrington" <[email protected]>; "Dave Kittredge" <[email protected]>; "Mary S. Booth" <[email protected]>; "Michael Kellett" <[email protected]>; "Claudia Hurley" <[email protected]>; "Ray Weber" <[email protected]>; "Mike Ryan" <[email protected]>; "David Gafney" <[email protected]>; "chris matera" <[email protected]>; "Stephen Kaiser" <[email protected]>; "White, Richard" <[email protected]>; "SCHRATER, FAYE" <[email protected]>; "Stransky, Laura" <[email protected]>; "Williams, Bill" <[email protected]>; "Morrison, Laurie Sanders & Fred" <[email protected]>; "Kaiser, Amy" <[email protected]>; "Heller, Sharl" <[email protected]>; "Dittmer, Paul" <[email protected]>; "Davis, John" <[email protected]>; "Zelazo, Timothy" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [ENTS] Re: A good day in the field Bob, you've measured striped maple up to 40" DBH????? If you have found such a tree, I'm going to contact the Pope and have him declare a miracle! Or do you mean circumference? Regarding photographic techniques- I've read a lot on the subject but I'm a bit too lazy to take the extra time. It would be necessary to slow down and I know you get so excited when amongst your favorite trees- that to stop and fiddle with a camera's adjustments is frustrating. A few things that stick to my mind are: a.. use a tripod, then stop down the exposure as much as possible, while making sure that the meter is looking mostly at the main subject b.. bright cloudy days are best- to minimize extreme contrast which usually makes dark trees and rocks too dark and grainy c.. most modern digital cameras have options for typical scenarios- choosing those is much simpler than actually adjusting exposure or speed d.. use of a high powered flash can make up for dark woods - or woods with too much contrast- photography purists hate using flash, but if it gives a clearer picture, so what? if used carefully, I don't know if anyone could tell you used a flash- and, with the flash, and the camera set on automatic- the camera's meter will do a great job e.. lens quality is very important, along with the size of the image in pixels- I'm not sure what the "sweet spot" is at this time for digital cameras in terms of getting the most bang for the buck but it might be worth investing in a digital SLR camera- which looks like a 35 mm I recommend to everyone to check out Dave Gafney's web site- "50 tips to great outdoor photos" at: http://www.gafneyphoto.com/ Dave sells a DVD with all those tips but offers several on that web site. A decade ago I bought a top of the line 35 mm with extra lenses but I wasn't happy with it. Using such a fancy camera can probably result in superior images to digital but using film is obsolete- just too much trouble. I'm quite happy with the 700 digital 3 meg pictures I can take with my Canon HV-20 video camera. Most come out very nice- perhaps not nice if printed, but nice enough for the net- especially with brightly lit scenes. For truly blow your mind photography, I think most professional photographers will say you need to use a "large format" camera- one of those big boxes which have huge negatives- but carrying those cameras around is a huge chore- probably best for large landscape scenes rather than routine shots of trees. I recall seeing in a bookstore once some large formatted images- poster size- of forest scenes- the detail was microscopic- it was like looking through a window into the real forest. Perhaps such extra effort could be taken for your absolute favorite trees of all time. Meanwhile, as we discussed recently, I hope to TRY to video tape you at some of your favorite Berkshire forests. In my experimenting with the video camera- I taped myself in my early succession forest behind my house- which is growing into an abandoned gravel pit, which was not reconstructed with top soil- and, on that site, the previous owner left all sorts of construction debris which I'm slowly trying to clean up. The forest consists of birch, white and pitch pine, poplar, etc. Nothing exciting, but I'm excited about it as I can improve it by cleaning it up, prune some trees, thin it out- so that instead of a trash heap with low value small trees, it may someday, in another 50 years, look decent- purely aesthetic work. I have this minute long video at http://vimeo.com/5876075 which is password protected- the password is "enip" which of course is "pine" spelled backwards. I used a wide angle lens, a tripod, a shotgun microphone and controlled the camera with a remote. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] ; Weiss, Nancy Cc: Zelazo, Timothy ; Davis, John ; Dittmer, Paul ; Heller, Sharl ; Hurley, Claudia ; Kaiser, Amy ; Morrison, Laurie Sanders & Fred ; Ryan, Mike ; Williams, Bill ; Stransky, Laura ; SCHRATER, FAYE ; White, Richard Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:20 AM Subject: [ENTS] Re: A good day in the field Joe, As you've no doubt deduced by now, a behind-the-scene motive of mine in presenting these forest images on the ENTS list is to entice better photographers than I am into visiting idyllic Berkshire forest sites with me. It is my increasing belief that exceptional forest sites and features need to be captured on film for posterity before climate change, forest policy, disease, etc. claim out champions and reduce exceptional forest sites to mere memories. The direct benefit of being a 'forest snob' (I clearly am that) is that I spend most of my time in the truly exceptional forest sites. I abandon unexceptional places pretty quickly. But other than those who accompany me, and with a few other exceptions, not many people visit the exceptional places - or if they do, their 'snob eye' isn't sharp enough to distinguish the nice from the exceptional - exceptional for Massachusetts, I mean. In my self-appointed mission, I'm struggling to get good pictures because while I may have an intuitive feeling for fairly artistic shots, as recognized by my friend Don Bertolette, I have simple equipment and only the most rudimentary understanding of the features of the camera that could be employed to capture difficult scenes. The job calls for someone with greater skills and experience. For example, the three attached images represent my attempt to capture the extraordinary rock and rock-tree scenes on Todd Mountain. I flubbed most shots badly. The challenge of photographing green, on green, on green with dabbles of gray and brown was too much for me. To put an even finer point to my lament, yesterday, when exiting the Trees of Peace Grove, I decided to check on a favored striped maple. It is fairly slender, but not small. Most people who pass it misidentify it. It would appear large to people who recognize the species, but likely they would not look up, except to ID the tree. Only a tree nut like me (and others on the list) would take further notice of it. But what should we notice? Holy Molly, as Dale would say, that sucker soars. I remeasured it and its upper leaves are 66 vertical feet above its base! There may be a leaf or two at 67 feet, making it one of 4 striped maples in Mohawk that I've measured to over 60 feet in height. All of us routinely see the species in the woods. It typically struts its stuff at girths of 12 to 18 inches and heights of 25 to 45 feet as typical maximums. People are often very impressed when they see those dimensions. Well, in the Hopper of Greylock, I've measured specimens to 40 inches DBH. In Mohawk, I've made it to 39 inches. I've measured striped maple to 54 feet in the Adirondacks, about the same in the Catskills, and commonly 30 to 45 feet elsewhere, but haven't broke 60 feet anywhere in the Northeast except in Mohawk and Monroe State Forests. I'm sure sites in NY and PA have striped maples in the 60-foot height class, but not many. Joe, I'd love to capture the verticality of striped maple in our forest reserves, but I have no idea of how to photographically capture what my eye sees with the species, other than its large, bright green leaves and elegant striped bark. Both these features are evident up close. We don't need to search for the biggest or tallest to photograph its leaves and bark. But what if we want to capture it in its full glory, capture its extraordinary canopy achievement in areas of mature forest? Can that be done? Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Zorzin" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 7:40:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [ENTS] Re: A good day in the field when I see such pictures- and they are very nice- I wonder how they'd look with a fish eye lens? anyone have one? another camera option I'd love to try if I could afford it is a double camera designed to take 3-D images, which you then look at with a viewer, as we all did as children- I still remember how much those viewers blew me away- I'd love to use one for forest photography Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Brown To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:28 PM Subject: [ENTS] Re: A good day in the field The next image looks high into the canopy of the Algonquin Pines. The sight is inspirational. When I go to the Algonquin Pines, I frequent the location of this image. There is a substantial difference between looking up into the canopy of 90 to 100-foot trees versus those near and above 150. This brings me to a point. Ahhh.. beautiful canopy shots. Here's a few good ones I've gotten in Ohio. #1 Is looking up into a ~120' Tulip trees in Mohican State Forest. #2 Is a grove ~140+' white pines in Hocking Hills State Forest. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
