Don, 

I could use that kind of camera. Is it digital? Cost? 


Bob 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "DON BERTOLETTE" <[email protected]> 
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Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 5:12:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [ENTS] Re: A good day in the field 

Bob- 
I'm reminded of how long you've been searching for ways to photographically 
capture what your eye sees in the woods, when I think back to the 90's when you 
were working with, hmmm, I want to say Melendez, a photographer acquaintance of 
yours with an array of lenses to bring to bear on trees. 
I have only seen one feature that I can think of that is relatively new, that 
might help. Not in terms of accurate graphical analysis (measurements), but in 
terms of including entire trees in a single image. 
My nephew recently purchased a Canon (a model unfamiliar to me) which enables 
him to capture a panorama by depressing shutter release, panning the camera 
from left to right and then releasing shutter...exposure changes seamlesses as 
you pan. There's no reason one couldn't pan vertically with a similar success. 
Well of course, but for other trees and shrubs being in the way... 
As we get single devices doing multiple tasks, it won't be long before most 
cameras will have GPS imprinting coordinates, time/date, etc. either on image 
or in the image metadata, or both. 
Some already do. 
-Don 

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Joe, 


As you've no doubt deduced by now, a behind-the-scene motive of mine in 
presenting these forest images on the ENTS list is to entice better 
photographers than I am into visiting idyllic Berkshire forest sites with me. 
It is my increasing belief that exceptional forest sites and features need to 
be captured on film for posterity before climate change, forest policy, 
disease, etc. claim out champions and reduce exceptional forest sites to mere 
memories. 
The direct benefit of being a 'forest snob' (I clearly am that) is that I spend 
most of my time in the truly exceptional forest sites. I abandon unexceptional 
places pretty quickly. But other than those who accompany me, and with a few 
other exceptions, not many people visit the exceptional places - or if they do, 
their 'snob eye' isn't sharp enough to distinguish the nice from the 
exceptional - exceptional for Massachusetts, I mean. 
In my self-appointed mission, I'm struggling to get good pictures because while 
I may have an intuitive feeling for fairly artistic shots, as recognized by my 
friend Don Bertolette, I have simple equipment and only the most rudimentary 
understanding of the features of the camera that could be employed to capture 
difficult scenes. The job calls for someone with greater skills and experience. 
For example, the three attached images represent my attempt to capture the 
extraordinary rock and rock-tree scenes on Todd Mountain. I flubbed most shots 
badly. The challenge of photographing green, on green, on green with dabbles of 
gray and brown was too much for me. 
To put an even finer point to my lament, yesterday, when exiting the Trees of 
Peace Grove, I decided to check on a favored striped maple. It is fairly 
slender, but not small. Most people who pass it misidentify it. It would appear 
large to people who recognize the species, but likely they would not look up, 
except to ID the tree. Only a tree nut like me (and others on the list) would 
take further notice of it. But what should we notice? Holy Molly, as Dale would 
say, that sucker soars. I remeasured it and its upper leaves are 66 vertical 
feet above its base! There may be a leaf or two at 67 feet, making it one of 4 
striped maples in Mohawk that I've measured to over 60 feet in height. All of 
us routinely see the species in the woods. It typically struts its stuff at 
girths of 12 to 18 inches and heights of 25 to 45 feet as typical maximums. 
People are often very impressed when they see those dimensions. Well, in the 
Hopper of Greylock, I've measured specimens to 40 inches DBH. In Mohawk, I've 
made it to 39 inches. I've measured striped maple to 54 feet in the 
Adirondacks, about the same in the Catskills, and commonly 30 to 45 feet 
elsewhere, but haven't broke 60 feet anywhere in the Northeast except in Mohawk 
and Monroe State Forests. I'm sure sites in NY and PA have striped maples in 
the 60-foot height class, but not many. 
Joe, I'd love to capture the verticality of striped maple in our forest 
reserves, but I have no idea of how to photographically capture what my eye 
sees with the species, other than its large, bright green leaves and elegant 
striped bark. Both these features are evident up close. We don't need to search 
for the biggest or tallest to photograph its leaves and bark. But what if we 
want to capture it in its full glory, capture its extraordinary canopy 
achievement in areas of mature forest? Can that be done? 



Bob 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Zorzin" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 7:40:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [ENTS] Re: A good day in the field 


when I see such pictures- and they are very nice- I wonder how they'd look with 
a fish eye lens? anyone have one? 

another camera option I'd love to try if I could afford it is a double camera 
designed to take 3-D images, which you then look at with a viewer, as we all 
did as children- I still remember how much those viewers blew me away- I'd love 
to use one for forest photography 

Joe 


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From: Randy Brown 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:28 PM 
Subject: [ENTS] Re: A good day in the field 












The next image looks high into the canopy of the Algonquin Pines. The sight is 
inspirational. When I go to the Algonquin Pines, I frequent the location of 
this image. There is a substantial difference between looking up into the 
canopy of 90 to 100-foot trees versus those near and above 150. This brings me 
to a point. 


Ahhh.. beautiful canopy shots. Here's a few good ones I've gotten in Ohio. 
#1 Is looking up into a ~120' Tulip trees in Mohican State Forest. #2 Is a 
grove ~140+' white pines in Hocking Hills State Forest. 









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