Lee-
Yeah, I guess it's not like earthworms leave much in the way of skeletal 
remains...is there anything in their innards that their remains or 'castings' 
might yield identifying signatures?
-Don

> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:51:38 -0500
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [ENTS] Re: earthworms and invasive plants
> 
> 
> Joe:
> 
> Much of the earthworm literature states that earthworms were removed 
> from the northern states by glaciers and that the worms never returned, 
> and/or that North American species of earthworms can't live in glaciated 
> areas.
> 
> However, there is no evidence for those statements. I have never seen 
> any proof that earthworms lived in the north prior to the last 
> glaciation, or that it takes more than 12,000 years  for the earthworms 
> to move about 1200 miles from the areas where they would have lived 
> during the peak of glaciation, to places like MA, NH and MN. So, I think 
> that they essentially reached the limit imposed by colder climates as 
> they moved north.
> 
> The correlations between whether an area is glaciated and native 
> earthworms are present also does not hold up very well. Southwestern WI, 
> for example, was not glaciated and has no native earthworm, whereas 
> Southeastern WI was glaciated and does have two species of native 
> earthworms. In addition to that, tundra and boreal forest with 
> permafrost would have extended as far south as TN and NC at the peak of 
> the last glaciation, and no North American earthworm species would find 
> those habitats suitable, so they had to move a great distance just to 
> make it back to places like MA and WI.  I think earthworm ecologists are 
> not very good paleoecologists, and look at the world as static, leading 
> to their misinterpretation of glaciation versus earthworm presence.
> 
> Lee
> 
> Joseph Zorzin wrote:
> > Lee, to what extent is the lack of many native species due to a 
> > slow rebound from the end of last glaciation?
> > Joe
> >
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     *From:* Lee Frelich <mailto:[email protected]>
> >     *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >     *Sent:* Friday, August 07, 2009 9:59 AM
> >     *Subject:* [ENTS] Re: earthworms and invasive plants
> >
> >
> >     Joe
> >
> >     Most of the earthworms you see at your latitude are European species,
> >     The nightcrawler (Lumbricus terrestris), leaf worm (L. rubellus),
> >     angleworms (several species of Aporrectodea and Octolasion), and
> >     small
> >     litter worm (Dendrobaena octeadra) are common European species
> >     from the
> >     Great Lakes through most of New England.  You may also have some
> >     Asian
> >     worms (Amynthas species).
> >
> >     Native earthworms are not very abundant in MA. They have a spotty
> >     distribution and include the genera Eisenoides and the aquatic
> >     Sparganophilus.
> >
> >     I noticed a report that you also have the introduced earthworm
> >     predator,
> >     a flatworm named Bipalium adventitium. We don't know much about
> >     it, or
> >     whether it might control invasive earthworm populations, but it
> >     recently
> >     reached the Midwest as well. Its basically a small version of the
> >     creature from the movie "Aliens". It squirts an earthworm with
> >     acid/digestive juices and the earthworm dissolves, and the
> >     flatworm suck
> >     up the resulting dissolved proteins. Good thing its only 2 inches
> >     long.
> >
> >     Lee
> >
> >     Joseph Zorzin wrote:
> >     > Lee, which earthworms that we have in the east are not native? Does
> >     > that include the common earthworm that is found in the NE?
> >     > Joe
> >     >
> >     >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     >     *From:* Lee Frelich <mailto:[email protected]>
> >     >     *To:* [email protected]
> >     <mailto:[email protected]>
> >     <mailto:[email protected]>
> >     >     *Sent:* Friday, August 07, 2009 9:04 AM
> >     >     *Subject:* [ENTS] Re: earthworms and invasive plants
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >     Russ:
> >     >
> >     >     Thanks--I was aware that the article was going to be published
> >     >     because I
> >     >     was one of the peer reviewers. I downloaded a pdf of it and will
> >     >     send to
> >     >     your e-mail address.
> >     >
> >     >     We have known that invasive plants are facilitated by earthworms
> >     >     for a
> >     >     few years, but it is difficult field work to do to prove it. I
> >     >     suspect
> >     >     there will be several more papers on this topic in the next few
> >     >     years.
> >     >     In this case, the study shows that European earthworms
> >     facilitate
> >     >     invasion of Japanese stiltgrass, barberry and garlic mustard. I
> >     >     suspect
> >     >     the worms also facilitate buckthorn and tatarian honeysuckle.
> >     >
> >     >     Lee
> >     >
> >     >     [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >     <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
> >     >     > ENTS....Lee:
> >     >     >
> >     >     > This is a link to a study of earthworms and invasive plants.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > I don't want to pay the $59 to read the entire article but
> >     >     someone in
> >     >     > the list might even subscribe to the publication it is
> >     printed in.
> >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >    
> >     
> > http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/bsc/cbi/2009/00000023/00000004/art00029
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Russ
> >     >     >
> >     >     > >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >     >
> >
> >
> >     >
> 
> > 

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