Carolyn The tree in the first pic was taken almost directly across the river from Barringtons Ferry, a pre-revolutionary crossing and the site of the plantation that Bartram visited and obtained the Franklinia. Originally it was placed in the genus Gordonia along with the Loblolly Bay and around here was always referred to as the "Lost Gordonia". It is ironic in that it thrives in the gardens of Boston, Philadelphia and even Atlanta, but is very difficult if not impossible to grow here in south GA. I know of only one gardener who has maintained the plant down here with any great success and he creates artificial beds and goes to great lenghts. I often wondered if it wasn't imported from somewhere else when Bartram found it.
Dr George Rogers who is now in his mid nineties, probably knows more about the small tree and its discovery than anyone, has searched that river swamp for 50 years and came up with naught. Well up into his upper 80's he still went out. He wrote a book about 25 years ago called "Swamp Water and Wiregrass" and devoted a chapter to the Altamaha and the Ft Barrington area. It is a fascinating read, if you can find it. On Oct 15, 10:43 am, Carolyn Summers <[email protected]> wrote: > Will, > > I hope that when you're on the Altamaha River you're keeping your eyes sharp > for a sighting of the functionally extinct Franklin tree (Franklinia > alatamaha), endemic to the River. As I'm sure you know, none have been > found in the wild since the 1800s. > -- > Carolyn Summers > 63 Ferndale Drive > Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706 > 914-478-5712 > > > > > From: Will Fell <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: <[email protected]> > > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:45:55 -0700 (PDT) > > To: ENTSTrees <[email protected]> > > Subject: [ENTS] Re: Diamondback > > > James > > > The first photo is on a blackwater lake off the Altamaha River > > downstream from Jesup Ga in Wayne County and the second and third are > > on Ebenezer Creek in Effingham County, a blackwater tributary of the > > Savannah River just north of Savannah GA. They are Ogeechee Limes > > which are Tupelos, (Nyssa ogeechee) and are very common on blackwater > > streams in SE GA and FLA. > > > On Oct 14, 6:38 pm, "JAMES L. FAY" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi- > >> Can you tell me what kind of tree you are standing in and where they are? > >> I > >> retired from Sales & Marketing at age 52. A few years ago my appendix > >> burst > >> while I was in the Lobby of Beth Israel Hospital in Boston. I woke up 4 > >> months later, having had a Stroke and my Left Leg amputated. I could find > >> no "Classy" Walking Sticks so I taught myself how to turn wood. I am now a > >> Master Turner. I have always love trees and wrote to someone about a 500 > >> year old Sycamore here in Norfolk,MA-3 or 4 Houses away. The house was > >> built in 1700s-early. My wife is in this recent photo. > > >> Jim > >> The rounded parts are Boles and someday when the tree passes; all the Canes > >> inside that tree will get loose...... > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on > >> Behalf Of Barry Caselli > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 6:15 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: [ENTS] Re: Diamondback > > >> Wow! I've never heard of Ogeechee Limes, and have never seen trees > >> like those. > >> Thanks. > > >> --- On Sun, 10/11/09, Will <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> From: Will <[email protected]> > >> Subject: [ENTS] Diamondback > >> To: [email protected] > >> Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 8:10 AM > > >> Gary > > >> I have seen Indigos a few times, but they are secretive and live > >> primarily in gopher holes on sandhills. They share their habitat with > >> diamondbacks and the gophers who dug the tunnels. Unfortionately many of > >> these sandhills are considered dead land and are cleared for other uses as > >> they won't grow timber. As an example about 15 years ago the county bought > >> a > >> 200 acre sandhill a few miles from me and converted it to an industrial > >> park. They relocated several hundred old gophers to one of the coastal > >> islands, but the snakes in the holes just got obliterated. > > >> As for the Ogeechee Limes, they are plentiful. As I follow the > >> discussions on the problems of accuratly measuring the girth of old large > >> multistem oaks, I really wonder how they they would treat an old ogeechee > >> lime. Below are a few pictures from the area. > > >> Will, > > >> Do you ever see any Eastern indigo snakes? I think GA and FL is > >> about > >> the only places they are left. > > >> I think the Ogeechee is famous for that small variety of tupelo > >> from > >> which the bees make the famous tupelo honey. > > >> gs > > >> Ogeechee Line and Pete Krull.jpg > >> 711KViewDownload > > >> ebeneezer creek 3_1_08 Ogeechee Lime.jpg > >> 270KViewDownload > > >> ebenezer 5_18_08 Ogeechee Lime.jpg > >> 275KViewDownload > > >> SYCAMORE- PRE 1700.JPG > >> 684KViewDownload > > >> LakeStreetSamuelDuntonHouse.jpg > >> 105KViewDownload > > >> S-10082009-1.JPG > >> 701KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
