Barry-

Yes, pin oaks are in the black/red oak group. The direction of the thread
shifted somewhat with the ID from photographs of a different tree, which was
in the white oak group.

Steve

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Barry Caselli <[email protected]>wrote:

> I thought Pin Oak was in the Black Oak Group, not the White Oak Group. From
> what I've seen, the leaves resemble those of Black or Scarlet, but with more
> "lobes" on each side than either of those species. I don't have any in my
> collection, or I'd show the leaves I'm referring to, although I'm pretty
> sure I've seen the leaves in Egg Harbor City recently.
>
> --- On *Fri, 11/6/09, [email protected] <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
>
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: [ENTS] Re: Two nice Pin Oaks, Bay Village, Ohio
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 5:42 PM
>
>
>  Steve,
> Splendid pictures of attractive pin oaks. Pins are very common in the
> Connecticut River Valley. I see many that are between 8 and 11 feet in girth
> and 85 to 105 feet tall. An occasional pin oak reaches to 13 to 14 feet
> around. An equally small population reaches to 110 feet in height. The pin
> oak seemed to have been a preferred shade tree along the streets of many
> northeastern cities.
>
> Today I photographed an oak in Look Park. The first three attached images
> show the trunk. The last two images show leaves from the same tree. What are
> the choices? The tree actually looks like a combination of swamp white oak,
> swamp chestnut oak, bur oak, and white oak. The tree looks to be fairly old.
> It grows close to a native woodland, but appears to be planted.
>
> Bob
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Galehouse" <[email protected]>
> To: "ENTS" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2009 6:23:07 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [ENTS] Two nice Pin Oaks, Bay Village, Ohio
>
> ENTS-
>
> Pin oaks are the most common oak in my area, but they seem to be relatively
> uncommon in much of the East. For those that only know the tree as a young,
> rigidly pyramidal landscape specimen, I thought I would show some pics of
> how they mature. The tree on the left is 101' x 12'7'', the right one is 89'
> x 13'3''. Lake Erie visible in baackground.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
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