Bob:

I also continue to find new things in places I have been to many times 
before. At the Kandiyohi elm forest, for example, last September I found 
what I call the peach-leaf willow super site.  Its a stand of peach-leaf 
willows 80-100 feet tall with some single trunks up to 40 inches dbh.  
Published descriptions of the species say it reaches a maximum height of 
40 feet. Its also where I met the deer tick that gave me Lyme Disease 10 
days later at the ENTS event at Cook Forest.

Lee

[email protected] wrote:
> Ed,
>
> Actually, I spend a fair amount of time in other forest sites, but 
> don't always find trees of interest to report to the list. However, 
> your suggestion set me to thinking about where and how I spend my time 
> in Massachusetts.  State properties do occupy most of my time, because 
> they tend to have the oldest forests, although there are private 
> parcels that compete. The areas below get moderate to frequent to 
> visitation from yours truly.
>
> * **State forests, parks, and reservations:*
>
> Mohawk Trail State Forest
> Monroe State Forest (you probably think of that as an extension of Mohawk)
> Savoy Mountain State Forest (I don't always distinguish between Mohawk 
> and Savoy, which are contiguous)
> Mt Tom State State Reservation
> Robinson State Park
> Mt Greylock State Reservation
> Bash Bish Falls State Park
> Mount Washington State Forest
> Mount Everett State Reservation
> Skinner State Park
> Mount Sugarloaf State Reservation
> Windsor State Forest
> Windsor Jambs
> Wachusett Mountain State Reservstion
>
>
> * **Private forests owned by environmental organizations that I visit 
> fairly often with worthy trees include:*
>
> Ice Glen
> Bryant Homestead
> Petticoat Hill
> Bullard Woods
> Graves Farm
> Monument Mountain
> Bartholomew Cobble
>
> *Small conservation areas I visit include:*
>
> Fitzgerald Lake Conservation Area
> Several areas along Connecticut River
> Broad Brook corridor
> Stebbins Wildlife Sanctuary
> Black Stevens Conservation Area
>
> *Parks, Cemeteries, etc. I visit include:*
>
> Tanglewood
> Look Park
> Stanley Park
> Mittenauge (sp)
> Childs Memorial Park
> Conway Cemetery
> Forest Park
> Fruit Street Tuliptrees
> Mill River conservation areas
>
> *A sample of areas I visit, but far less often, are as follows:*
>
> Negus Mountain 
> Wendell State Forest
> Quabbin Reservoir
> Beartown State Forest
> Notchview
> Westfield sand plains
> Mineral Hills
> Bardswell Ferry (once visited it often)
> etc., etc., etc.
> Well, I think you get the picture. I visit plenty of places, but the 
> truly great forest sites are few and far between and I am reluctant to 
> waste time in the myriad of undistinguished places. This brings me to 
> a suggestion. What do you think about all of us banning together to 
> produce tan 'ENTS Guide to Great Eastern Forests'? We could approach 
> Sierra Club Guide Books - but preferably a different publisher. Sierra 
> Club Guide Books is difficult to work with. I know that from 
> experience. Chapters, sections, or sites would be contributed by 
> different authors. That is the only practical way to do it, i.e the 
> book would need to be coauthored, given its scope. We are THE only 
> organization in the country that could take on such a project and do 
> justice to it from a forest point of view. Other authors would write 
> such a book relying on the mediocre and usually inaccurate 
> descriptions of others. Our book would be 100% ENTS. 
>
> To make the point even stronger, I just bought an AMC's 'Massachusetts 
> Trail Guide'. It is 399 pages long. It was written by a highly 
> qualified retired Smith College Professor by the name of John Burk. I 
> have met John and hold him in the highest esteem. The guide gives 
> directions to and a brief write-up on each trail. It is a hefty work. 
> But in compiling the information, John had to rely on many sources, 
> and consequently, descriptions of the forests one encounters along the 
> trails that are included vary greatly in detail and in quality. That 
> is not intended as a criticism, just a statement of fact. It would be 
> true of virtually any other guide written via relying on the 
> descriptions of others. If we want the public to have a guide to 
> excellent eastern forests, we will have to produce it. Thoughts? Oh 
> BTW, we tend to overload ourselves with projects. If we take this one 
> on, other forest projects will need to be put on the back burner. Each 
> potential contributor would need to commit himself/herself to a 
> schedule. Otherwise, such a big, joint project would never get finished.  
>
> Bob                                                                   
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Edward Frank" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 8:45:09 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [ENTS] Fwd: Continuing the mission
>
> Bob,
>  
> I am glad you are still making discoveries in your old stomping 
> grounds there at MTSF. Here in Pennsylvania we have I believe 78 State 
> Forest Natural Areas and many in State Parks also. Several Years ago 
> Charles (Chuck) Fergus, a naturalist/outdoor writer set himself the 
> task of visiting each of the 78 State Forest Natural Areas in a single 
> year.  He wrote a trip report for each visit and directions for 
> finding the area.  These were compiled into a book I have found very 
> useful in my explorations of forests in PA.  This could be  a project 
> for you in Massachusetts and a reason to visit some of these other 
> areas.  There are 9 large forest reserves in the state, with some 
> divided into multiple sections.  You could visit each of the sites and 
> measure trees and do a site description for each, with the goal of  
> putting them together into a more formal report. Each description 
> could be from 3 to 12 pages.  You wrote a nice overview in this style 
> of MTSF in your original MTSF Annual Report series.  That could be 
> updated.  There was also a list of various areas being considered for 
> small scale forest reserves in the state that would encompass only a 
> few areas.  Even if these did not have great trees, there is surely 
> natural features of interest you could visit and describe.  This would 
> be a more relaxed and less demanding than the Mensuration Book.  You 
> could even take photos and GPS locations this time.  As you know I 
> have been trying to visit the little pockets of old forest found in PA 
> that others haven't been to yet.  In between I am trying to see some 
> of the other State Natural Areas - many have already been reported by 
> Ernie Ostuno and Dale Luthringer, among others.  But it is something 
> that is a nice ongoing project that lets me see some different areas 
> rather than just revisiting the old ones. 
>  
> Ed Frank
>  
>  
> Check out my new Blog:  http://nature-web-network.blogspot.com/ (and 
> click on some of the ads)
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     *Cc:* Belchetz-Swenson, Sarah <mailto:[email protected]>
>     ; CAMPANILE, ROBERT <mailto:[email protected]> ; Ricci,
>     Heidi <mailto:[email protected]>
>     *Sent:* Saturday, November 21, 2009 4:50 PM
>     *Subject:* [ENTS] Fwd: Continuing the mission
>
>     ENTS,
>
>     I short time back I mentioned to Monica that I was becoming
>     frustrated with my forest mission. Naturally she asked why. I
>     explained that I hadn't been making enough new big/tall tree
>     discoveries. I was spending too much time revisiting the same
>     trees. I do like to check up on favorite trees, but I need to add
>     to my database.
>
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