Yes! You give me the LATLONG and associated tree attributes and I will  
plot and analyze tree attributes (height, CBH, canopy footprint,  
species, versus terrain shape and complexity.  A small data set would  
get me started with ARCGIS and DEMS.

Gary

On Nov 24, 2009, at 8:25 AM, [email protected] wrote:

> John,
>
>       Even better, if we plotted locations on Google Earth terrain maps  
> of sufficient resolution to show terrain shape. This might draw Gary  
> into the search. He's long been an advocate of plotting tree  
> locations on terrain maps and doing some serious terraip shape  
> analysis. We could show the distribution at different levels of  
> resolution. Something to consider. BTW, did you see my measurement  
> of the tall hemlock near Bruce Kershner's pine (Shunpike Area of  
> Mohawk)? It is now 126 feet. Not bad.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Eichholz" <[email protected]>
> To: "ENTSTrees" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:50:56 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada  
> Eastern
> Subject: [ENTS] Re: more 140's
>
> One could make a sort of contour map, with colors or lines to
> delineate the height class observed.  It would be neat, and would show
> the correlation of terrain and height, as it exists.
>
>
> On Nov 23, 7:59 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> > John,
> >
> > Excellent. Mapping out the 140s may eventually give us a better  
> picture of the range of tall tree habitats for Pinus strobus and the  
> tradeoffs. Why don't we see more 140s in the Connecticut River  
> Valley? How does terrain shape influence maximum height?
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Eichholz" <[email protected]>
> > To: "ENTSTrees" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:24:56 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada  
> Eastern
> > Subject: [ENTS] more 140's
> >
> > Bob's call to map the 140' pines of Massachusetts got me out to
> > measure a few candidate trees I have been watching. I actually found
> > 4 new trees in that class, at 3 new sites.
> >
> > #1 and #2 are roadside trees along Avery Brook in Heath. They just
> > entered the 140' class at 140.1' and 140.5', but the 140.1' pine has
> > the additional feature of being much larger than I thought. Crossing
> > the brook, I measured the girth to a whopping 11.75' at 4.5' high. I
> > didn't get the girth of the other, which is a double perched on the
> > banks of the brook.
> >
> > #3 is found in a nice pine grove in Highland Park, in Greenfield. I
> > measured it from 3 different places, all to over 140' but averaging
> > 140.5'h x 7.6'c. I think this is the second 140' pine found in the
> > Connecticut River valley of Massachusetts. A second tree within a  
> few
> > feet of the first measured to 139' x 8.3'c.
> >
> > #4 is located on private land, in Dummerston, Vermont, in a nice
> > drainage leading to the West river. I measured it to 140.0'. In the
> > same cove I found a 120.3' hemlock. I will be going back to that  
> site
> > soon!
> >
> > One additional find to report is a pair of shagbark hickories in
> > Catamount State Forest. The first approximately tied the site record
> > at 113.5' and the second broke the record at 116.0'h x 4.9'c. The
> > find brings the Catamount Rucker index to 116.2.
> >
> > On the debit side of the ledger, I went to Ash Flats to reconfirm  
> the
> > 133' bitternut hickory. Unfortunately I can confirm that it blew
> > over. I did find a 126.7'h x 5.5'c red oak high up the slope above
> > Ash Flats, but saw a lot of oaks, maples, birch, and ash blown down,
> > most of them larger specimens than those left standing. It does seem
> > that in addition to wind and ice we must add soil saturation to the
> > agents of tree mortality. I have been finding lots of blow downs
> > dating from this summer's 6 weeks of rain and saturated soils, as
> > evidenced by finding leaves still attached to the branches and tip  
> up
> > mounds located in obvious collector areas for soil moisture. These
> > have included old, large hardwoods in sheltered cove settings, so  
> they
> > are seeing unusual conditions I guess.
> >
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