Local lore has it that the Inwood Forest was the site of an encampment by
Hessians during the Revolutionary War but was allowed to regrow afterward
and was never logged, except for isolated poaching of the exotic pawlonia
trees for Japanese wedding shoes.
--  
    Carolyn Summers
    63 Ferndale Drive
    Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706
    914-478-5712




From: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:30:16 -0500
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [ENTS] Re: Tallest Trees in NY Girth

Mike, 

That's fantastic! I really like Inwood Park the best of all the city parks
with forests. You do not feel at all as if you are in NYC (once you get
there), and those tulip trees are breath taking. The geologic features are
quite something too.

I'm glad to have a report from you to take with me on my next trip, which,
believe it or not, was going to be this week!  I went to the NYBG Forest
today and Central Park the other day,  so this was nex on my rounds!

Thanks so much for posting this and for going to the not too shabby Inwood
Park. Another thing: it is the quietest park. Ahhh....

I'm so excited that you went up there! Thanks again,

Jenny


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Nov 29, 2009 4:48 pm
Subject: Re: [ENTS] Re: Tallest Trees in NY Girth

Mike, 

   Kudos to you, but dang it, wish you hadn't forgotten your clinometer and
calculator. It sounds like you've just confirmed the first 150-foot trees in
the Big Apple. That is an accomplishment.

Jenny,

   It's time for us to get serious about the measuring mission. NYC
obviously has some great trees, and maybe more than we had ever imagined.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Davie" <[email protected]>
To: "ENTSTrees" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 1:52:07 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [ENTS] Re: Tallest Trees in NY Girth

It's interesting you should post this; I just got back from a family
trip to NYC, and while there I really wanted to visit Inwood Hill
Park, which I'd seen the edges of in previous visits. It's a near 200
acre wooded park on the northern end of Manhattan that I'm pretty sure
has been mentioned here before. I could only work in two hours on
Thanksgiving morning, including travel via subway from 181st to 207th
(first time taking a subway to measure trees), so I only barely saw
it. I had my rangefinder, but nothing else, unfortunately,
subsequently I don't have a big report due to the brevity of the trip
and lack of gear. But, I will say, what a great park! There's a
northeast facing ravine that I checked out, it's overwhelmingly
dominated by tuliptree with an understory of spicebush (Lindera), with
a little black, white, chestnut, and northern red oak, red and sugar
maple, black cherry and black birch, a little American elm and
hackberry, among other species. There are a number of tuliptrees in
the 120-130 foot class, with a fair number getting taller. I shot
straight up from my eye to get 47, 48, and 49 yards on different
trees, so I'm fairly certain at least a couple would be over 150 feet.
Girths were 10 to 13 feet or so, and I think the ages of the larger
trees are generally in the 150-225 year range. There's a bitternut
hickory (one of the few I saw, and certainly the largest) about 11
feet in circumference that measured 47 yards shooting straight up into
the crown. I think the site warrants a more thorough visit, at some
point.
Michael

On Nov 22, 11:15 am, thomas howard <[email protected]> wrote:
> ENTS,
> Here is my best effort to get the girths of the tallest trees in NY:
>
> Tallest Trees in New
> York State       
11/16/2009
>
>   (heights in
> feet)
>
> White Pine                        158+            Elders
> Grove, Adirondacks     13.2
> ft. cbh
>
> Red Pine                           110            Floodwood-Rollins
> Pond, Adir.      
>
> Red Spruce                        105            Peavine
> Swamp, Adir.     
>
> Balsam Fir       
> 95.6            Elders
> Grove, Adir.                  4
> ft. cbh          
>
> Larch                                    100            Peavine
> Swamp, Adir.
>
> Hemlock                          126            Kaaterskill
> Falls                          8.4
> ft. cbh
>
> Tuliptree                        156            Zoar
> Valley                              10.5 ft. cbh
>
> White Ash                        140.8            Kaaterskill
> Falls                    10.4 ft. cbh
>
> White Oak                        121.6            Vanderbilt
> Estate, Hyde Park   11.9 ft.cbh
>
> Red Oak                        140.3            Zoar
> Valley                              slender
> tree?            
>
> Black Oak                        106.3            Wellwyn
> Preserve, Long Island    7.1
> ft. cbh
>
> Beech                                    130.1            Zoar
> Valley                        6
> ft.9² cbh
>
> Sycamore                        155            Zoar
> Valley                                 8.3
> ft. cbh?
>
> Black Locust                        126.6            Old
> Maid¹s Woods, Schenectady
>
> Pignut Hickory                     129            FDR
> Estate, Hyde Park
>
> Bitternut Hickory               136.4            Zoar
> Valley                                    slender
> tree?
>
> Mockernut Hickory            103.1            Vanderbilt
> Estate, Hyde Park           6.9
> ft. cbh
>
> Black Walnut                        124.1            Zoar
> Valley           
> rather slender tree
>
> Sugar Maple                        127.6            Zoar
> Valley           
>                   6.5
> ft. cbh
>
> Red Maple                        119.1            Zoar
> Valley                                 5
> ft. 10² cbh
>
> Black Cherry                        131.1            Lily
> Dale, Chautauqua Co.   about 8.4
> ft. cbh          
>
> Cucumber Magnolia            115.5            Long
> Point State Park                    6.3
> ft. cbh          
>
> American Basswood            128.7            Zoar
> Valley                                6
> ft. 9² cbh
>
> American Elm                  120.6            Zoar
> Valley                                        9
> ft. 5² cbh
>
> Red Elm                        120.4            Zoar
> Valley                        slender
> tree
>
> Cottonwood                    134.4            Zoar
> Valley                             14
> ft. cbh
>
> Sassafras                      107.3            Wellwyn
> Preserve                         6.3 ft. cbh
>
> Black Gum        
> 94.5            Wizard
> of Oz Oak Grove No. Syracuse 5.3 ft. cbh
>
> Black Birch                    107.3            Wellwyn
> Preserve                      4.4 ft. cbh
>
> Yellow Birch                   101.1            Zoar
> Valley                              4.5 ft. cbh
>
> All height except Floodwood-Rollins Pond, Peavine Swamp,
> Wizard of Oz Oak Grove, are from ENTS website. Floodwood-Rollins Pond and
> Peavine Swamp are from
>
> championtrees.org. All heights were measured with
> laser-rangefinder.
>
> Black Gum in Wizard of Oz Oak Grove, North Syracuse was
> measured by Robert Henry and Tom Howard 11/15/2009.
>
> Cbh = circumference at breast height or 4.5 ft. The
> championtrees.org site which listed several of these trees seems to be
offline.
> I could not find all the cbh figures
>
> on ENTS website.
>
> Tom Howard       
>
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