ENTS,
Here are some reports about heights in Liverpool School Maple Grove and various
sites in North Syracuse:
Liverpool School
Maple Grove Heights
Liverpool NY
11/26/2009
On Thanksgiving morning Jack Howard and I visited this
awesome old growth forest near Wetzel Rd. Elementary School. I used Robert
Henry’s laser rangefinder to get heights. Besides some very tall trees
(especially Sugar Maples) the grove has other old growth signs like abundant
pit and mound topography, and many of these trees have balding bark, shaggy
bark, spiral grain. Many of the Sugar Maples and other trees are well over 200
years old; it was on this site that I discovered the record age Basswood
cross-section with 242 rings in 2003.
Trees Measured:
Sugar Maple 22.4”
dbh 91 ft.
Sugar Maple 52.6”
dbh (13.8 ft. cbh) 116
ft.
(this
is the largest tree in the grove, a craggy shaggy giant with spiral grain
and
is possibly at least 350 years old – the tree has 2 huge scars that could
have been markings made by Military
Tract surveyor in 1790s – a Sugar Maple Military Tract Witness Tree stood on
that spot – this is likely to be
that tree)
Sugar Maple 41.6”
dbh (10.9 ft. cbh) 121.5
ft.
massive
tree with rugged shaggy bark
Sugar Maple 30.7”
dbh 119
ft.
most
difficult tree to measure topmost branch very hard to hit
Red Maple 36.6”
dbh 108
ft.
largest
Red Maple in grove
Red Maple 24.9”
dbh
94 ft.
next
to Sugar Maple of same size
Beech 35.3”
dbh
91 ft.
Beech 24.4”
dbh
90 ft.
Beech 28.2”
dbh 105
ft.
Bitternut Hickory 27.3”
dbh 115
ft.
Leaning Basswood 24.7”
dbh 85 ft.
Hollow Basswood 24.2”
dbh 80 ft.
Black Cherry at edge 32.4”
dbh 75 ft.
There are many more tall Sugar Maples and we possibly did
not find the tallest ones.
There do not seem to be enough species for a Rucker 10
Index.
The crowns of these Sugar Maples are massive, complex, and
nearly twice as large as the crowns of the younger old growth Oaks in the North
Syracuse groves.
Preliminary Rucker 5 Index:
Sugar Maple 10.9
ft. cbh 121.5
Bitternut Hickory 7.1 ft. cbh
115
Red Maple 9.6 ft. cbh
108
Beech 7.4 ft. cbh
105
Basswood 6.5 ft. cbh
85
Rucker 5 106.9
At the grove’s north edge (where I discovered the oldest
Basswood) is a giant Shagbark Hickory 40.5” dbh – we did not have time to
measure this tree but it grows at the edge and does not appear to be over 80
ft. tall; the tallest trees are Sugar Maples in the southern half of the grove.
Tom Howard
11/29/2009
Centerville Court
North Syracuse Tree Heights Nov.
2009
On 11/26 and 11/28 I used laser rangefinder to measure
heights in Centerville Court where I live – all but one of these trees are
second growth and quite slender with none over 30” dbh. All conifers but the
Hemlock were planted after this complex was built in 1972-1973.
Douglas-fir end of Bldg. “C” 55.5
ft.
Cottonwood Bldg. “L” 82
ft.
Tuliptree on Sandra Lane 65
ft. near Centerville Ct.
3 White Pines by Community Center: 48
ft.
41
ft.
38
ft.
Douglas-fir by
Community Center 56
ft.
Sycamore at end of Visitor’s Lot 45
ft.
Scots Pine by Community Center 21
ft. I grew this tree from seed
gathered
at Le Moyne College, Syracuse in Dec. 1988.
Black Oak between Bldgs. “E” and “F” 74
ft. at forest edge several other
Black
Oaks this size in area
Norway Spruce Bldg. “E” 2 leaders 59
ft.
In Bldg. “K” Circle:
Hemlock 30
ft. oldest tree at Centerville Ct. –
this
tree was cored by NYS DEC Forester est. age 185+ yrs. 18.9” dbh
Black Gum also cored est. age 150+ yrs. 54
ft.
Red Oak also cored est. age 75 yrs. 71
ft. 25.2”
dbh
Cottonwood across road from Comm. Center 76 ft.
Cottonwood Bldg. “G” Circle 66
ft.
Red Oak Bldg. “G” Circle 81
ft.
Douglas-fir by Bldg. “L” 49
ft.
Scarlet Oak Arbor Day Tree 12
ft. planted 2006
Norway Spruce end Bldg. “B” 65.5
ft.
Cottonwood behind this Spruce 80
ft.
Cottonwood 3rd tree to east in clump of 4 92
ft. should be tallest at Centerville
Court
– these 4 slender Cottonwoods are over 80 years old – I counted
over
85 rings on the stump of a same size Cottonwood next to them.
Pitch Pine Woodwind Gardens 56
ft. Woodwind Gardens is next door
and
this Pitch Pine is growing in a small grove of young Maples and Oaks.
It
is the only Pitch Pine in a natural setting in North Syracuse – it does not
seem
to be a native tree this far west – the nearest natural stand I know of
is
near Rome NY.
Tom Howard
11/29/2009
North Syracuse NY
Tree Heights
2009
On 11/26, 11/28, and 11/29 I used Robert Henry’s laser
rangefinder to measure tree heights in North Syracuse:
Sassafras behind house near edge of Heritage Park 65
ft.
Old White Pine (150 yrs. old?) by Rt. 11 76
ft.
across
from Palace Court
European Larch vacant lot by Palace Court 79
ft.
White Pine second growth forest between 102 ft.
Lonergan
Park and Wizard of Oz Oak Grove – this tree is prominently
seen
from all around the area and is by far the tallest and largest tree
in
this second growth stand – the trees around it (mostly oaks and
maples)
do not seem to be over 70 ft. tall – it is most likely the tallest
White
Pine in North Syracuse and is a young tree about 2 ft. dbh and
most
likely about 90 years old.
In southwestern part of Wizard of Oz Oak Grove:
Red Oak #19 38.4”
dbh 80
ft.
prominent
at southwest corner of grove
Black Cherry
by trail under
2 ft. dbh 83
ft.
Black Cherry under 2 ft. dbh
77
ft.
Both of these Black Cherries are est. 150 yrs. old – the
nearby much smaller
Black Cherry #17 was cored and is est. 135+ yrs. old. Much
smaller pole
size Black Cherries in the grove have been found to be 80
years old.
Sassafras by North Syracuse Junior High parking lot 49
ft.
500
ft. from Wizard of Oz Oak Grove
North Syracuse Cemetery:
White Pine young tree at edge of woods near Oak Grove 84 ft.
Double Red Oak (2 trees growing together) 55
ft.
massive
and picturesque craggy gnarly with huge burls –
combined
diameter of the 2 trunks that are fused together is over
6
ft. This month one of the trunks
still had all its leaves while the
other was bare.
Tom Howard
11/29/2009
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