Tom,
Impressive sugar maples. Red maple is no slouch either. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "thomas howard" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:05:59 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [ENTS] Liverpool Maple Grove and North Syracuse Trees ENTS, Here are some reports about heights in Liverpool School Maple Grove and various sites in North Syracuse: Liverpool School Maple Grove Heights Liverpool NY 11/26/2009 On Thanksgiving morning Jack Howard and I visited this awesome old growth forest near Wetzel Rd. Elementary School. I used Robert Henry’s laser rangefinder to get heights. Besides some very tall trees (especially Sugar Maples) the grove has other old growth signs like abundant pit and mound topography, and many of these trees have balding bark, shaggy bark, spiral grain. Many of the Sugar Maples and other trees are well over 200 years old; it was on this site that I discovered the record age Basswood cross-section with 242 rings in 2003. Trees Measured: Sugar Maple 22.4” dbh 91 ft. Sugar Maple 52.6” dbh (13.8 ft. cbh) 116 ft. (this is the largest tree in the grove, a craggy shaggy giant with spiral grain and is possibly at least 350 years old – the tree has 2 huge scars that could have been markings made by Military Tract surveyor in 1790s – a Sugar Maple Military Tract Witness Tree stood on that spot – this is likely to be that tree) Sugar Maple 41.6” dbh (10.9 ft. cbh) 121.5 ft. massive tree with rugged shaggy bark Sugar Maple 30.7” dbh 119 ft. most difficult tree to measure topmost branch very hard to hit Red Maple 36.6” dbh 108 ft. largest Red Maple in grove Red Maple 24.9” dbh 94 ft. next to Sugar Maple of same size Beech 35.3” dbh 91 ft. Beech 24.4” dbh 90 ft. Beech 28.2” dbh 105 ft. Bitternut Hickory 27.3” dbh 115 ft. Leaning Basswood 24.7” dbh 85 ft. Hollow Basswood 24.2” dbh 80 ft. Black Cherry at edge 32.4” dbh 75 ft. There are many more tall Sugar Maples and we possibly did not find the tallest ones. There do not seem to be enough species for a Rucker 10 Index. The crowns of these Sugar Maples are massive, complex, and nearly twice as large as the crowns of the younger old growth Oaks in the North Syracuse groves. Preliminary Rucker 5 Index: Sugar Maple 10.9 ft. cbh 121.5 Bitternut Hickory 7.1 ft. cbh 115 Red Maple 9.6 ft. cbh 108 Beech 7.4 ft. cbh 105 Basswood 6.5 ft. cbh 85 Rucker 5 106.9 At the grove’s north edge (where I discovered the oldest Basswood) is a giant Shagbark Hickory 40.5” dbh – we did not have time to measure this tree but it grows at the edge and does not appear to be over 80 ft. tall; the tallest trees are Sugar Maples in the southern half of the grove. Tom Howard 11/29/2009 Centerville Court North Syracuse Tree Heights Nov. 2009 On 11/26 and 11/28 I used laser rangefinder to measure heights in Centerville Court where I live – all but one of these trees are second growth and quite slender with none over 30” dbh. All conifers but the Hemlock were planted after this complex was built in 1972-1973. Douglas-fir end of Bldg. “C” 55.5 ft. Cottonwood Bldg. “L” 82 ft. Tuliptree on Sandra Lane 65 ft. near Centerville Ct. 3 White Pines by Community Center: 48 ft. 41 ft. 38 ft. Douglas-fir by Community Center 56 ft. Sycamore at end of Visitor’s Lot 45 ft. Scots Pine by Community Center 21 ft. I grew this tree from seed gathered at Le Moyne College, Syracuse in Dec. 1988. Black Oak between Bldgs. “E” and “F” 74 ft. at forest edge several other Black Oaks this size in area Norway Spruce Bldg. “E” 2 leaders 59 ft. In Bldg. “K” Circle: Hemlock 30 ft. oldest tree at Centerville Ct. – this tree was cored by NYS DEC Forester est. age 185+ yrs. 18.9” dbh Black Gum also cored est. age 150+ yrs. 54 ft. Red Oak also cored est. age 75 yrs. 71 ft. 25.2” dbh Cottonwood across road from Comm. Center 76 ft. Cottonwood Bldg. “G” Circle 66 ft. Red Oak Bldg. “G” Circle 81 ft. Douglas-fir by Bldg. “L” 49 ft. Scarlet Oak Arbor Day Tree 12 ft. planted 2006 Norway Spruce end Bldg. “B” 65.5 ft. Cottonwood behind this Spruce 80 ft. Cottonwood 3 rd tree to east in clump of 4 92 ft. should be tallest at Centerville Court – these 4 slender Cottonwoods are over 80 years old – I counted over 85 rings on the stump of a same size Cottonwood next to them. Pitch Pine Woodwind Gardens 56 ft. Woodwind Gardens is next door and this Pitch Pine is growing in a small grove of young Maples and Oaks. It is the only Pitch Pine in a natural setting in North Syracuse – it does not seem to be a native tree this far west – the nearest natural stand I know of is near Rome NY. Tom Howard 11/29/2009 North Syracuse NY Tree Heights 2009 On 11/26, 11/28, and 11/29 I used Robert Henry’s laser rangefinder to measure tree heights in North Syracuse: Sassafras behind house near edge of Heritage Park 65 ft. Old White Pine (150 yrs. old?) by Rt. 11 76 ft. across from Palace Court European Larch vacant lot by Palace Court 79 ft. White Pine second growth forest between 102 ft. Lonergan Park and Wizard of Oz Oak Grove – this tree is prominently seen from all around the area and is by far the tallest and largest tree in this second growth stand – the trees around it (mostly oaks and maples) do not seem to be over 70 ft. tall – it is most likely the tallest White Pine in North Syracuse and is a young tree about 2 ft. dbh and most likely about 90 years old. In southwestern part of Wizard of Oz Oak Grove: Red Oak #19 38.4” dbh 80 ft. prominent at southwest corner of grove Black Cherry by trail under 2 ft. dbh 83 ft. Black Cherry under 2 ft. dbh 77 ft. Both of these Black Cherries are est. 150 yrs. old – the nearby much smaller Black Cherry #17 was cored and is est. 135+ yrs. old. Much smaller pole size Black Cherries in the grove have been found to be 80 years old. Sassafras by North Syracuse Junior High parking lot 49 ft. 500 ft. from Wizard of Oz Oak Grove North Syracuse Cemetery: White Pine young tree at edge of woods near Oak Grove 84 ft. Double Red Oak (2 trees growing together) 55 ft. massive and picturesque craggy gnarly with huge burls – combined diameter of the 2 trunks that are fused together is over 6 ft. This month one of the trunks still had all its leaves while the other was bare. Tom Howard 11/29/2009 Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. 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