That makes sense.  I have been to both places and I think large trees would
be in short supply, so I was just wondering.  The website is quite right;
these places are like sleepy little towns.  I have a good friend who lives
in Broad Channel.  He is the Jamaica Baykeeper.  Before he retired, he was
for years the chief of the Jamaica Bay Wildlife Preserve.  I didn¹t know
that they had volunteer fire depts.  That¹s interesting.  I wonder how the
unionized fire dept. feels about that.  If you go to City Island, which is
like a tiny fishing village, then you must also go to Pelham Bay Park to the
section called Hunters Island.  It is not really an island any more because
of landfilling activities around the time of the creation of Orchard Beach.
But there are big trees there, maybe even considered old growth.  There is a
big red oak tree that the Parks Dept named Big Red.  That grove is
wonderful.
--  
    Carolyn Summers
    63 Ferndale Drive
    Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706
    914-478-5712




From: Barry Caselli <[email protected]>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 19:08:36 -0800 (PST)
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [ENTS] NYC - needs ENTS

Because, although they are part of New York City, they are both actually
small, relatively remote communities, like small towns. Each has a main
street with a volunteer fire house. I find that very interesting for being
within NYC. I read a lot, and I probably found out about them from reading
the "You'd never believe you're in NYC" section of the Forgotten-ny website,
one of my favorite websites on the entire internet. I'm endlessly fascinated
by NYC.
Barry

--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Carolyn Summers <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> From: Carolyn Summers <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [ENTS] NYC - needs ENTS
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 1:54 PM
> 
> Why City Island and Broad Channel?  I know them both and though I have nothing
> against either, they would not be on my list for a tour for an out-of-towner.
> --  
>    Carolyn Summers
>     63 Ferndale Drive
>     Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706
>     914-478-5712
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Barry Caselli <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:20:03 -0800 (PST)
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [ENTS] NYC - needs ENTS
> 
> I'm interested in NYC for a few reasons.
> First, I have a rough list of buildings I want to see and photograph, many in
> Manhattan, but several in other boroughs as well. Then there are the parks and
> museums. I want to see that park in the north of Manhattan that I told you
> (Jenny) about several months ago. Now I forget the name of it. It's the one
> with old-growth forest in it. There's also the Queens County Farm Museum. I
> also want to see City Island and Broad Channel, and the Jamaica Bay Wildlife
> Refuge. (See the "You'd never believe you were in New York City" section of
> the Forgotten New York website.)
>  
> I also want to go out to Suffolk County, to the Long Island Pine Barrens,
> which are a small version of what I have here.
>  
> But my interests in New York City range from the architecture, to the history,
> to the bridges, to the mass transit (subways, taxis and busses)
> 
> --- On Sun, 11/22/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [ENTS] NYC - needs ENTS
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 9:51 AM
>> 
>> Bob, for your trip to the Academy of Music:
>> "Soave sia il vento, tranquilla sia l'onda".....(favorite trio from Act. 1.
>> of Cosi: the girls and their neighbor bid the boys farewell and safe travels
>> on their fake journey.)
>> 
>> Bob, you would be sooo well-chaperoned in NYC !  And take the train, don't
>> drive. I want to go find the co-champions. If Barry has time at some point,
>> maybe I can drag him up here. He knows a lot about the sites. And then
>> there's Jessica Arcate the NYBG Forest Manager who is a wonderful person and
>> could show us what's going on at NYBG. And there's Chris the arborist at BBG
>> who wants to arrange to climb the hangman's elm in Washington Square....
>> 
>> You know, it;s easy and inexpensive to stay on the outskirts and train in for
>> the day. I'm a good trip planner...
>> 
>> Just keep it in mind everyone. And I promise I am a very good tour guide as
>> well. 
>> 
>> Anyway...go back to yer country woods! See if I care!
>> 
>> Jenny
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Sun, Nov 22, 2009 12:31 pm
>> Subject: Re: [ENTS] NYC - needs ENTS
>> 
>> Jenny, 
>> I very much enjoyed the video. It reminded me that you are, indeed, correct
>> about there being an important mission for ENTS in the cities - where the
>> people are. Monica has been wanting to visit NYC for a long time, but I am
>> always the drag. She used to live in NY.
>> 
>> BTW, did you know that several years ago, the NY Times asked me to come down
>> to New York to determine which was the largest tree in the Big Apple? I was
>> petrified at the thought of driving in NY by myself, so I talked Bruce
>> Kershner into going down with me. He grew up on Staten Island and was very
>> skilled at maneuvering in NY traffic. No problem for hi, Plus, he saw an
>> opportunity to pitch our upcoming book.
>> 
>> The contest was between a tree in Queens and a tree on Staten Island, both
>> tulip poplars. In the end, the difference in volumes was too close to call. I
>> pronounced them co-champions. Sneaky, huh?
>> 
>> Well, Monica and I are off to the Academy of Music to hear the Commonwealth
>> Opera perform a Mozart opera, Cosi fan tutti.
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "JennyNYC" <[email protected]
>> <http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >
>> To: "ENTSTrees" <[email protected]
>> <http://us.mc544.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >
>> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 9:33:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: [ENTS] NYC - needs ENTS
>> 
>> ENTS,
>> 
>> I realize that it's going to be awhile before I'm good enough at
>> measuring to compile  any tree or forest data in NYC. Don't you think
>> someone needs to come here and do some work in a few places? There's
>> so so much ENTS info on nearly every forest on the eastern seaboard,
>> but I don't think anything for NYC, right?
>> 
>> Urban forest data is going to become more and more important in the
>> future - and it's critical enough now that data compiled on NYC
>> forests and individual trees by such a reputable group as ENTS would
>> be extremely helpful.
>> 
>> I know you all hate the city, but you'd be providing an important
>> public service, whether it's readily apparent or not.
>> 
>> Do you agree or disagree with this?
>> 
>> Chew on that while you watch my oh so enticing (not!) video of Madison
>> Sq. Park:
>> 
>> http://vimeo.com/7753541
>> 
>> Madison Sq. Pk.:
>> - 6.2 acres
>> -located: 23rd to 26th streets between 5th and Madison
>> -formally opened as park in 1847. Used as a public space since 17th
>> century.
>> 
>> Species of trees: London Plane, Ginkgo, Oak sp., mature Ailanthus,
>> American Elms, locusts
>> 
>> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&v=2.2&sll=37.6819,-95.4518&hl=en&q
>> =madison+square+park,+new+york+city&ie=UTF8&hq=Madison+Square+Park&hnear=Madi
>> son+Square+Park,+New+York,+NY+10010&ll=40.74216,-73.990871&spn=0.003942,0.008
>> 948&t=h&z=17 
>> <http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;v=2.2&amp;sll=37.6819,-95
>> .4518&amp;hl=en&amp;q=madison+square+park,+new+york+city&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=M
>> adison+Square+Park&amp;hnear=Madison+Square+Park,+New+York,+NY+10010&amp;ll=4
>> 0.74216,-73.990871&amp;sp>
>> <http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;v=2.2&amp;sll=37.6819,-95
>> .4518&amp;hl=en&amp;q=madison+square+park,+new+york+city&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=M
>> adison+Square+Park&amp;hnear=Madison+Square+Park,+New+York,+NY+10010&amp;ll=4
>> 0.74216,-73.990871&amp;sp>
>> 
>> (my apartment is about where the "zoom man" is standing.)
>> 
>> Thanks....Jenny
>> 
>> 
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