Gary- Hmm, "down tree", would that be akin to being 'tarred' or 'feathered'?
-Don From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENTS] Andrew Joslin and Henry David Thoreau Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 19:29:09 -0500 I don't want to be "down tree" from you. Gary On Dec 5, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Will Blozan <[email protected]> wrote: Gary, Let’s climb a tree next time I’m up there and we’ll see… Will F. Blozan President, Eastern Native Tree Society President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc. "No sympathy for apathy" From: Gary A Beluzo [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 3:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENTS] Andrew Joslin and Henry David Thoreau Will Is that a bona fide ENTS maneuver, "intense sphincter adventures"? Gary On Dec 5, 2009, at 9:41 AM, Will Blozan <[email protected]> wrote: Bob, Awesome day indeed! I am puzzled by the tape drop- something is not right. Did you add in BH? (156.1+4.5= 160.6) Did Andrew observe crown damage? I would bank on John Eichholtz’s measurements any day (and yours ;). I can’t accept that a tape drop was two feet off of some of ENTS greatest and most accurate measurers. No way. My climb in 2007 of the Grandfather tree substantiated that the high point of the Thoreau Pine was WAY off center on the down stream and slightly upslope side of the crown. I recall the intense sphincter adventures with getting high enough and cantilevered out to even reach it with the short extension pole I had during the climb. I transposed the top across the crown to a suitable anchor point for a drop as straight and close to the trunk as possible. It took some work for sure. Would have been a lot easier with a clinometer and pole combination… In the photo below (taken from the Grandfather Pine in 2007) the high point is clearly seen to the upper right of the crown. I recall it being virtually invisible from the ground from typical measurement vantage points. Perhaps it has broken but it sounds like it needs to be reclimbed. Thoreau is worthy! <image001.jpg> Will F. Blozan President, Eastern Native Tree Society President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc. "No sympathy for apathy" From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ENTS] Andrew Joslin and Henry David Thoreau ENTS, Well today was a big day for the Massachusetts group of dedicated Ents. At my request, Andrew Joslin and two companion climbers took on the daunting task of climbing the Henry David Thoreau pine in Monroe State Forest for the purpose of doing a tape drop measurement. The day was perfect for the climb. We met at the Charlemont Inn at 8:30AM and had breakfast. To our delight, John Eichholz was able to make it. So, after breakfast, we headed for Dunbar Brook. While John and team readied for the climb, John and I scooted around measuring other trees. We also measured the Thoreau pine from as many locations as possible. Our ground-based measurements ranged from 157.1 to 158.4 feet. John and I thought the most probably height for the tree to be 158 feet. To cut to the chase, Andrew's tape drop came to 156.1 feet. John and I were surprised, but that is the best measurement we have, so the big tree is no longer in the 160 Club. However, John established a new mid-slope baseline for girth using the Will Blozan method. Thoreau's girth is an even 13.0 feet. So, the Thoreau pine moves into another girth class. Lose some, win some. John went farther out the ridge while Andrew and team were getting themselves positioned in the top of the pine. John measured a sugar maple to 124.7 feet, a new height record for the Dunbar Brook maples. The Rucker Index stands at 123.7 today. Its all time high is 124.1. I found a tall ash upslope from Thoreau and the Grandfather pine. Its dimensions are girth = 7.2 feet, height = 128.9 feet. Not bad. I remeasured the Grandfather pine and got 144.7 feet. That is a believable number, given Will Blozan's climb a couple of years ago. I think he got around 143.5 feet or so. Well, enough chatter. The following images tell a little of the story. ThoreausBase.jpg: This image show's Thoreau's base. That is what a 13-foot circumference looks like for a straight white pine. LookingIntoThoreausCrown.jpg: I tried to capture the appearance of how this tree soars. TopOFThoreau.jpg: This image shows Andrew's pole at the tippy top of the great tree. ClimberInThoreau.jpg: This image shows a climber ascending. AshMapleAndRock.jpg: This image is included to give an idea of the surrounding terrain and forest. Great place. and your team, all ENTS thanks you and your team, and most of all the great Henry David Thoreau pine thanks you. We can promote this climb as a genuine effort to put truth into the tree numbers. 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