Thanks Jess and Doug: I still have not found any Shumard. But I have another question. How is the Shumard for self pruning?. I know from experience that Scarlet and Pin Oaks are poor self pruners. TS
On Dec 8, 9:12 pm, doug bidlack <[email protected]> wrote: > Jess, > > I'm glad you tackled this. I'm also trying to learn more about Shumard oak > and my experience with it is extremely limited. I've seen it in southern > Illinois, southern Indiana and on Belle Isle in the Detroit river in > Michigan. On Belle Isle there were two other Red Oaks present; pin oak and > northern red oak. The pin oaks seemed to be in the more poorly drained soils > and the northern red oaks were on the more well drained soils...So the > Shumard oaks were kinda inbetween the two. This seems to agree with what you > were saying about the site preference for Shumard oaks within floodplains. > > I've attached a couple pictures of a pin oak (first two) and then a couple of > a Shumard oak on Belle Isle. Bark down near the ground looks quite similar > for both species...to me at least. > > Doug > > --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Jess Riddle <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Jess Riddle <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [ENTS] Shumard Oak- Help! > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 5:17 PM > > Turner, > > > I haven't seen shumard oak in a few years, so I was hoping > > someone > > else would jump in, but here goes. Shumard oak often > > has light > > colored vertical streaks and dark furrows in the bark much > > like > > northern red oak or scarlet oak. On bottomland sites, > > they have a > > very open, spreading crown structure similar to cherrybark > > oak, but > > not quite as pronounced. On bottomlands they also > > have well developed > > buttresses. Leaves may still be helpful; if I > > remember correctly, > > they are generally similar to pin oak or scarlet oak, but > > are larger > > and have more bristle tips. They grow best in > > relatively well drained > > portions of floodplains and may associate with species like > > cherrybark > > oak and sweetgum. Shumard oak also grows on thin > > soiled limestone > > slopes, and occasionally other calcareous uplands. > > > Jess > > > > P1.jpg > 590KViewDownload > > P2.jpg > 608KViewDownload > > Sc1.jpg > 563KViewDownload > > Sc2.jpg > 543KViewDownload -- Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected]
