Steve, I don't know, I see what appear to be quite a wide variety of age classes there from a few much younger trees near it to what appear to be some other old giants scattered across the distance with various size trees in between. Granted this is just one shot and maybe a little hard to judge and I have never been there in person myself. In the other shot it seems a bit less conclusive.
And if the guy is correct that the old maps show that serious logging only occurred on top, where it did occur, in the late 1800's and later, well this tree surely looks older than that. Maybe down a bit farther to the south second growth can get that big that fast, but that would seem pretty shocking to me for a windblown mountain top in NJ, to get so large in so relatively short of a time. Granted I'm above the terminal moraine where growing conditions are probably even worse, but in my backyard I have a small chunk of forest that is older than the rest, at least 150 years old, and the tulip tree in it, while large, doesn't look close to that size and the bark is not as platy. Here is some more about what they said about the area: http://theshagbarkspeaks.blogspot.com/2009/02/in-search-of-ancient-forest.html -Larry -------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Springer" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:33 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [ENTS] The Sourlands Giant! > Larry, > > Nice tuliptree, based on the consistent size of the neighboring trees, I > would suspect that this stand is not as old as you may suspect. What > definition of "old growth" are you referring to? Forest dynamics or a > specific tree age? > > > Steve Springer > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Dinomys4 > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 1:55 AM > To: ENTSTrees > Subject: [ENTS] The Sourlands Giant! > > Here is a link to the incredible mountain top tulip on Sourlands Mountain > in NJ! > > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_j2p5nPYXDPo/SY9HBciWVzI/AAAAAAAAADc/il2Lx0m6nl0/s1600-h/Giant+Tulip+2+NJ_20090208_327.jpg > > (note again the photo is NOT mine) > > That has got to be a patch of old-growth forest no? > > A new entry for NJ? > > I'm trying to get in touch with the guy who took the photo to find out > more. > > -- > Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to > [email protected] Visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en > To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] > > -- > Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org > Send email to [email protected] > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en > To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -- Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected]
