Maybe it was determined to be significantly hollow at the time and left behind. Also, since it is surrounded by a boulder field, it would likely have broken up when felled.
Paul On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:58 PM, x <[email protected]> wrote: > Steve, > > I don't know, I see what appear to be quite a wide variety of age classes > there from a few much younger trees near it to what appear to be some other > old giants scattered across the distance with various size trees in > between. > Granted this is just one shot and maybe a little hard to judge and I have > never been there in person myself. In the other shot it seems a bit less > conclusive. > > And if the guy is correct that the old maps show that serious logging only > occurred on top, where it did occur, in the late 1800's and later, well > this > tree surely looks older than that. Maybe down a bit farther to the south > second growth can get that big that fast, but that would seem pretty > shocking to me for a windblown mountain top in NJ, to get so large in so > relatively short of a time. Granted I'm above the terminal moraine where > growing conditions are probably even worse, but in my backyard I have a > small chunk of forest that is older than the rest, at least 150 years old, > and the tulip tree in it, while large, doesn't look close to that size and > the bark is not as platy. > > Here is some more about what they said about the area: > > http://theshagbarkspeaks.blogspot.com/2009/02/in-search-of-ancient-forest.html > > -Larry > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Steve Springer" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:33 AM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [ENTS] The Sourlands Giant! > > > Larry, > > > > Nice tuliptree, based on the consistent size of the neighboring trees, I > > would suspect that this stand is not as old as you may suspect. What > > definition of "old growth" are you referring to? Forest dynamics or a > > specific tree age? > > > > > > Steve Springer > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > > Behalf Of Dinomys4 > > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 1:55 AM > > To: ENTSTrees > > Subject: [ENTS] The Sourlands Giant! > > > > Here is a link to the incredible mountain top tulip on Sourlands Mountain > > in NJ! > > > > > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_j2p5nPYXDPo/SY9HBciWVzI/AAAAAAAAADc/il2Lx0m6nl0/s1600-h/Giant+Tulip+2+NJ_20090208_327.jpg > > > > (note again the photo is NOT mine) > > > > That has got to be a patch of old-growth forest no? > > > > A new entry for NJ? > > > > I'm trying to get in touch with the guy who took the photo to find out > > more. > > > > -- > > Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email > to > > [email protected] Visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en > > To unsubscribe send email to > > [email protected]<entstrees%[email protected]> > > > > -- > > Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org > > Send email to [email protected] > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en > > To unsubscribe send email to > > [email protected]<entstrees%[email protected]> > > -- > Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org > Send email to [email protected] > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en > To unsubscribe send email to > [email protected]<entstrees%[email protected]> > -- Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected]
