Bob:

The forecast here forecast for Minneapolis is: today, high 6 degrees F, 
-15 tonight and a high of 3 tomorrow (in northern MN, temps of -30 will 
almost approach what one could legitimately call 'cold').  
Unfortunately, thats not anywhere near cold enough to kill the recently 
arrived emerald ash borer.

You should have seen all the people out and about last night without 
coats in downtown Minneapolis.  Can't let things like parkas, gloves, 
hats, etc., screw up your New Year's Eve party attire. Just walk fast 
and you'll generate enough heat to get from the car to the party.  
Furthermore, if you drink enough alcohol, you won't even know if you get 
frost bite, and if you drink even more, you won't freeze solid until it 
gets down to the freezing point of ethanol, -174 degrees F.

I am surprised trees haven't adopted ethanol as their anitfreeze. 
Typical northern hardwoods like sugar maple can only deep supercool 
their cambium down to about -47.  If they did have ethanol as a form of 
sap, they would be able to reforest Antarctica.

Lee

Bob wrote:
> Ed
>
>      I am contacting the chief arboclulturist for Montpelier and hope 
> to set up a meeting on a return visit where we will GPS the locations 
> of dimensionally significant trees. Dr. Nancy Weiss knows the 
> locations of the significant trees. So, their whereabouts has not been 
> lost. The role of Montpelier as a big tree/tall tree site will be told. 
>
>     BTW, TNC holds a conservation easement on the area of mature and 
> semi-old growth on the Montpelier estate. The local TNC fundraiser is 
> a friend of mine, so the ENTS connections to Montpelier will grow. 
>
>        The challenge for me on my visits this time was to work without 
> my hands freezing. It was very cold and windy. On leaving 
> Massachusetts Monica and I had hoped Virginia would be reasonably 
> hospitable weather-wise, but alas, the cold was biting. I shudder how 
> this will sound to Lee. He'll think I've turned into a complete 
> weather wimp, but it was freaking cold. 
>
> Bob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 30, 2009, at 7:04 PM, "Edward Frank" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>>  
>> You need to GPS these trees as you measure them so that they can be 
>> located and distinguished the next time someone visits the site. I 
>> know you have GPS built into your iPhone and maybe a stand alone 
>> unit.  ENTS people in general, if they have the capability should to 
>> start taking GPS readings of their tree as they measure.  ENTS, 
>> if you do not have GPS unit, please take careful notes and describe 
>> the tree's location, so that they may be found by others.  There is 
>> no real point in having people discover the same trees over and over 
>> again because we do not know where they are located.  You are better 
>> off measuring new trees at new locations.  If you want to monitor the 
>> growth of a particular tree, yes you will need to remeasure it over 
>> and over again, but the numbers are only meaningful of you know that 
>> this tree is the same one that was measured the last time.  In order 
>> to develop a useful database of measurements, we need to know where 
>> the trees we measure are located.
>>  
>> Edward Frank
>>  
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