A long time ago, I bought one of each, Suunto and Brunton.  Over several years, 
I couldn't tell much of a difference between the two, either in accuracy, 
repeatability, or reliability.  The "feel" of the Suunto seemed better, so I 
stopped using the Brunton and take it along as a backup.

Paul
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Edward Frank 
  To: ENTS Google 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 11:18 PM
  Subject: [ENTS] BRUNTON VERSUS SUUNTO


  Steve 

  As far as I know nobody has ever compared the two here in ENTS.  Brunton 
makes top of the line compasses/clinometers for geology work.   would thin they 
would make good clinometers.  The thing to check would be how easily the 
readings are to take, how closely can you estimate the angle, and if you sight 
the same point several times from the same position (sight, drop it down, sight 
again, do you come up with the same readings.  

  You can test the accuracy of the clinometer calibration:

  Ed Frank wrote (Sept 14, 2005) 
http://www.nativetreesociety.org/measure/instrumentation/suunto_clinometer_testing.htm

  You can test the level accuracy of a clinometer or instrument. Sight from a
  marked height at some object- tree of pole at a distance. Have an assistant
  mark the point on the distant object the clinometer or instrument says is
  level.   Move to that spot and sight back to your original position. If it
  is perfectly accurate the backsight will be right on the point you shot from
  originally. If it is reading high, then the angle it is off will be
  under-reading by arc tan [1/2 (error)/distance].   If it is pointing lower
  than the starting point, then it is reading high, calculations are the same.
  In this way you can tell at least if the original level line is actually
  level or not.

  There is no reason to think that the Brunton would be calibration error would 
be any different from that of the Suunto.  But you can use this process above 
to develop a correction factor if you want.  The error in the clinometer is a 
simple mechanical one relating to the weight placement on the dial.  It is a 
simple error that should be exactly the same amount in the same direction at 
all angles, unlike systematic errors which increase over a range.  However 
unless the clinometer is really way off, several degrees, then the errors at 
the bottom (slightly larger but shorter distances, ad the errors at the top 
slight ly smaller but longer distances) tend to pretty much cancel out 

  John Eicholz wrote (Nov 6, 2003) 
http://www.nativetreesociety.org/measure/instrumentation/calibration.htm
          I think I can prove mathematically that the error in tree height that
        results from each degree of clinometer error is approximately between
        1.75% and 1.9% of the horizontal distance to the trunk...Because the
        factor: (1/cos(@))*(Sin(@)-sin(@+e)) is nearly a constant! Its range is
        a smooth progression from 1.74% at 0 degrees to 1.9% at 80 degrees. 


  Ed Frank

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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Steve Galehouse 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 11:09 PM
    Subject: Re: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone


    I have, and have been using, a Brunton clinometer rather than a 
Suunto---any appreciable differences in quality or accuracy?

    Steve
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