ENTS,

The Brunton looks like it would be a little easier to use, at least
for a beginner. Not that the Suunto is at all hard to use.

JP

On Jan 6, 12:18 am, "Edward Frank" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Steve
>
> As far as I know nobody has ever compared the two here in ENTS.  Brunton 
> makes top of the line compasses/clinometers for geology work.   would thin 
> they would make good clinometers.  The thing to check would be how easily the 
> readings are to take, how closely can you estimate the angle, and if you 
> sight the same point several times from the same position (sight, drop it 
> down, sight again, do you come up with the same readings.  
>
> You can test the accuracy of the clinometer calibration:
>
> Ed Frank wrote (Sept 14, 
> 2005)http://www.nativetreesociety.org/measure/instrumentation/suunto_clino...
>
> You can test the level accuracy of a clinometer or instrument. Sight from a
> marked height at some object- tree of pole at a distance. Have an assistant
> mark the point on the distant object the clinometer or instrument says is
> level.   Move to that spot and sight back to your original position. If it
> is perfectly accurate the backsight will be right on the point you shot from
> originally. If it is reading high, then the angle it is off will be
> under-reading by arc tan [1/2 (error)/distance].   If it is pointing lower
> than the starting point, then it is reading high, calculations are the same.
> In this way you can tell at least if the original level line is actually
> level or not.
>
> There is no reason to think that the Brunton would be calibration error would 
> be any different from that of the Suunto.  But you can use this process above 
> to develop a correction factor if you want.  The error in the clinometer is a 
> simple mechanical one relating to the weight placement on the dial.  It is a 
> simple error that should be exactly the same amount in the same direction at 
> all angles, unlike systematic errors which increase over a range.  However 
> unless the clinometer is really way off, several degrees, then the errors at 
> the bottom (slightly larger but shorter distances, ad the errors at the top 
> slight ly smaller but longer distances) tend to pretty much cancel out
>
> John Eicholz wrote (Nov 6, 
> 2003)http://www.nativetreesociety.org/measure/instrumentation/calibration.htm
>         I think I can prove mathematically that the error in tree height that
>       results from each degree of clinometer error is approximately between
>       1.75% and 1.9% of the horizontal distance to the trunk...Because the
>       factor: (1/cos(@))*(Sin(@)-sin(@+e)) is nearly a constant! Its range is
>       a smooth progression from 1.74% at 0 degrees to 1.9% at 80 degrees.
>
> Ed Frank
>
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>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Steve Galehouse
>   To: [email protected]
>   Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 11:09 PM
>   Subject: Re: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone
>
>   I have, and have been using, a Brunton clinometer rather than a 
> Suunto---any appreciable differences in quality or accuracy?
>
>   
> Stevehttp://nature-web-network.blogspot.com/http://primalforests.ning.com/http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=profile&id=709156957-
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