Parts of the Adirondacks have some pretty nice ones too!
I think the champion for hardwood fatness there is the yellow-birch though.
They have some real whoppers that are incredibly impressive. I know the
Porkies do too.
Maples and certain other hardwoods tend to grow taller though, for those
purely into the heights.
(side note: Even in areas that got logged in the Adirondacks, in many places
they only took softwoods and in some areas like just east of schroon lake
the density of hemlcok and white pine and red spruce was pretty low so there
are some big chunks that for all intents and purposes look fully like
old-growth even if technically cut. some even have reasonably large looking
softwoods having had over 100 years to grow back)
I need to start doing some measuring. There is a pretty decent sized sugar
maple in the woods behind my house. My wild, rough guess would be
29"dbhx81.0345' :) . We will see how it turns out. Oddly enough the tallest
tree of all around my house had been a Beech! Taller than the northern red
oak, taller than the white ash, taller than the tulip, taller than the sugar
maple! Sadly it rotted out and had to be taken down (it was very close to
the houses and could've done extreme damage, quite large, maybe 36' diameter
at the stump?) Sadly the tallest white ash got killed by the great drought a
few years back. The top has already fallen so I can't get a height on it
anymore. And the tallest red oak got removed years and years ago (ashamed to
admit it got killed when they built our house due to sloppy bulldozer work
compacting the roots from what I am told).
-Larry
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From: "Lee Frelich" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:54 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [ENTS] Height Measurement
Jimmy
There are a number of sugar maples about that size in various old growth
remnants in Minnesota, such as Wolsfeld Woods, and Crosby Manitou. I
can't remember any quite that large in circumference from Nerstand Big
Woods State Park, but there are some taller ones there. The really big
Sugar maples in the region are in The Porcupine Mountains Wilderness
State Park in Upper Michigan. There are numerous specimens there with
much larger trunks and also 20 feet taller, especially in the area
around the Presque Isle Campground. The Driftless Area of southwestern
Wisconsin also has very large sugar maples in the coulees. Coulees are
v-shaped valleys carved in the karst by streams, and many of them are
several hundred feet deep and have seepages, making ideal conditions for
large trees.
Lee
Barry Caselli wrote:
Amazing. I've never seen any kind of maple as big as that. But we
don't have sugar maples here, and big trees are rare anyway.
--- On *Fri, 1/15/10, Jimmy /<[email protected]>/* wrote:
From: Jimmy <[email protected]>
Subject: [ENTS] Height Measurement
To: "ENTSTrees" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 12:55 PM
I'm new to the game and still using the old Hold out a stick height
measurement technique. How accurate is that?
Here's a sugar maple I measured Using that Technique.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/38649...@n08/4272915937/in/set-72157623216597308/
This is the largest forest grown sugar maple I've seen in Minnesota,
10'9" cbh 83' tall Crown 61'.
How does that compare to other Sugars?
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