--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Bob Talbot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My photographing of birds in Asia would benefit tremendously from a
> sharp 5.6 1200 MM but at the price of 35 lbs and a year's salary is
> not my idea of a 1200 mm lug through the woods lens.
Wow! That is some salary!
ACTUALLY THAT WAS NOTHING MORE THAN A FIGURE OF SPEECH - MY SALARY IS
MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
> This is why I am so excited by the EOS D30 (which I have). This
camera is like a dream come true for bird photography. Having a
camera with a builtin x1.6 difference shooting Canon L glass with
35mm like results has me pinching myself to remember that I am not
dreaming
Shoot film and crop the negatives as much as you like. You can get
even longer *???*focal lengths*???* that way. (And still win on
quality).
The "spin" put on having crappy little digital sensors is no more than
that. The day they can make 'em bigger economically they will and
suddenly all the advantages of the poxy little ones will be forgotten
...
BOB- IN READING THIS MY FIRST QUESTION IS IF THIS IS SOME ULTRA-
CREPIDARIAN REMARK OR ARE YOU MAKING THESE STATEMENTS FROM EXPERIENCE
OR FROM SOME DOCUMENTED TEST? HAVE YOU DONE
A CROP ON YOUR OWN PERSONAL SCANNER AND COMPARED RESULTS WITH THE
SAME PICTURE TAKEN WITH AN EOS D-30? DO YOU OWN A EOS-D30? DO YOU
OWN A DIGITAL? DO YOU PERSONALLY KNOW HOW THE CANON CMOS COMPARES TO
THE LITTLE CCD'S IN THE PROSUMER MARKET. EVER WONDERED WHY SOME WELL
KNOWN WILDLIFE PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHERS ARE NOW GOING DIGITAL?
EVER WONDERED WHY ANOTHER WELL KNOWN NATURE PHOTOGRAPHER WENT ON
RECORD THAT THE EOS D-30 WAS BETTER THAN HIS 4000 DPI SCANS OF 35 MM
TRANSPARENCIES?
I'VE HAD THEM ALL - THE 35 MM'S FOR 30 YEARS AND I AM ON MY THIRD
DIGITAL. MY SECOND DIGITAL THE NIKON CP950 WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO BE MY
PRIMARY CAMERA FOR UNDERWATER PHOTO'S. (I AM NOT SAYING IT COMPARED
TO THE 35MM BUT IT WAS MUCH EASIER TO SHOOT UNDERWATER OVER THE 35MM
AND THE RESULTS WERE GOOD ENOUGH FOR MY OWN PERSONAL USE). MY
LATEST, THE EOS D30 FAR EXCEEDS THE NIKON AND IS NOW MY PRIMARY EOS
WITH MY EOS-5 AS A BACK-UP AND FOR WIDE ANGLES. I HAVE ALREADY TAKEN
ABOUT 5000 PICTURES AND AM CONTINUIOUSLY AMAZED WITH ITS RESULTS.
MY A4 PRINTOUTS ARE NO DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I SEE TAKEN WITH THE 35MM.
MY POINT IS THAT YOUR "SPIN" STATEMENT CANNOT RELATE TO THE EOS D30
AND THERE IS A WHOLE HOST OF HAPPY EOS-D30 OWNERS THAT WOULD ATTEST
TO THAT. YOU ALSO CAN'T COMPARE A 3 MP CAMERA (CCD) AGAINST THE 3 MP
EOS CMOS - THE PHYSICAL SIZE OF THE "FILM PLANE" ALONE IS QUITE
SIGNIFICANT - AND THE QUALITY OF THE OUTPUT. THE ECONOMICAL
STATEMENT IS QUESTIONABLE AT BEST AND IF YOU WOULD JUST DO THE MATH
ON FILM VS DIGITAL IN THIS SCENARIO - LETS SAY 6000 PHOTOS PER YEAR
AND THE REQUIRED LENS INVENTORY FOR THE TASK YOU WOULD SEE THAT THIS
MAKES ECONOMICAL SENSE.
I'M NOT SAYING 35 MM IS CRAP AND I'M NOT SAYING THE D-30 IS
SUPERIOR. HOWEVER I AM SAYING THAT CALLING SOMEONE'S EXPERIENCE AND
A CROWD OF VERY HAPPY EOS D30 OWNERS THAT THEIR EQUIPMENT IS NOTHING
BUT CRAP IS NOT WHAT I EXPECT FROM THIS GROUP. LET'S TRY TO RESPECT
AND LEARN FROM EACH OTHER'S EXPERIENCES - THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE
GROUP. AND YES - I TOO LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY WHEN THEY CAN MAKE
SENSORS BIGGER AND CHEAPER. - DAVE
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