BlueSky, to clarify what I am talking about.

If you set the _camera_ to M mode, or any other mode that would allow you to
set shutter time long enough to observe first and second curtain sync, and
leave _flash_ on E-TTL, flash will fire a preflash and a second curtain sync
burst.

If I set the _flash_ to M mode, only the second curtain sync burst will be
visible, because no TTL / E-TTL flash operation will take place.

That is what Sriram confirmed and what my tests showed. I think this is the
same what you say.

> -----Original Message-----
>
> Hi Miha,
>     Sriram got all the questions covered, just want to clarify a small
> detail.
>
> Miha wrote:
> > Second curtain sync. We know that with E-ttl, the flash "should" fire
> preflash to calculate the correct flash exposure.
> > If I set the camera to mode Av, and set such apperture value that the
> shutter speed will be long enough for me to see whether the flash fires at
> the second curtain, the flash fires two times (first curtain or
> preflash and
> second curtain) when set to E-TTL and only on second curtain when
> set to M.
>
> IIRC, even with the camera in M mode, the pre-flash should fire
> at the first
> curtain and then the actual flash will fire at the second
> curtain, just like
> in Av mode.  Maybe your shutter speed setting in M mode is too fast to
> observe the two flashes, or you're talking about the flash being set to M
> mode?
>
> I'm using EOS30 with 420EX, if it matters.
>
> BlueSky
>

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