Chip Louie wrote:

Hi Thomas,

The only thing weak about the 10D for shooting sports/action/racing is the
(relatively speaking), slow AF speed and frame rate.  The EOS 10D AI-Servo
is more like 2FPS in the real world even with fast glass mounted and
selecting the center AF point.  It shoots like an Elan II or EOS 1 WITHOUT a
PB-E1 booster which is about 2-2.5 FPS in AI-Servo mode at best with fast
"L" class lenses.


Hi Chip,


I think I could live with 2-2.5 FPS in Servo Mode. Until now, I use an 1N
with booster and a 80-200L, which is perfectly fast enough for my needs.
Usually, I trigger each shot individually. My subjects aren't all that
fast. E.g. cars (frame filling) with 80-120 km/h doing a power slide.
So it's not strictly racing pictures. Also, the 80-200 is long enough to do
the pics, I'm pretty close to the cars. The thing is, I'm tired of all the
scaning and tweaking scans, I need to produce digital images faster, with
less work. I want to concentrate more on the fun parts of it, which for me
is taking the pics and looking at the results. ;-)

Therefor, I bought a Powershot G3 last Christmas, to cover the "slower"
shooting and reduce the total amount of images to scan. This works pretty
good, the G3 pics don't need nearly as much tweaking as my scans. But with
several events each month and still around 50 pics per event to scan,
tweak, put together with the G3 images and make a nice CD package, it
still costs a lot of time. I find myself working on those pics on more
weekends and evenings than I'd like. After all, it's supposed to be just
a hobby and not my main job. :-( And I'd like it to stay that way, although
I'm pretty sure I could make some money with it. It's amazing how low the
standards of most people seem to be. ;-) They're happy with pics I would
have trashed immediately.

Lately, I've tried to do part of the action shots with the G3 with some
success, but it's a major pain and you need some luck as well. With the
1N I'm SURE I'll get a useable shot, with the G3 it's a matter of luck
and prefocusing and switching to MF is a must. Those problems increase
when I have to use the tele adapter to get enough reach, AF is next to
non existent then.

My hope is, that the D10 would be fast enough to cover it all. A little
slower than a 1N wouldn't matter. Maybe comparable to an EOS 5 (A2E)
for AF speed in servo mode?

An alternative would be to get a better scanner. My old HP Photosmart
is obviously not up to the task. The colors aren't clean, it has problems
with dark image parts, so I heve to do a lot of tweaking to get an
acceptable output. It really hurts to compare the unprocessed scans to the
original slide.

The reservations below aside, the EOS 10D body can produce very fine images
that are sometimes somewhat better then the EOS D60 can produce.  In the
studio or where the action is slower paced the 10D and D60 are perfect
cameras and IMO comparable performers in terms of image quality.

That sounds good. I think I'll try to rent a 10D and will see how it performs.



You can certainly use a 10D for sports but the results may not be quite up
to par with what you are used to shooting sports with unless you have an
older or lower model film body.

My 1N certainly qualifies as an older model and the 80-200L also is not the fastest focusing lens in the EF line ;-) But the combo is perfect for what I'm doing. An 1V, a 70-200L or a longer lens wouldn't be much of an improvement for me, just more overkill.

Thomas Bantel

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