I think you're both right. Before digital, I would have said I was happy
with the 20-35 USM on film bodies, and I was already using pretty much
digital (1.6) by the time I bought the 17-40. But the 17-40 is pretty cool
on full frame film, so I'd still want something wider than 20mm even if I
move to a 5D.

Tom P.

> Javier Perez wrote:
> 
> >Not meaning to throw in another variable but I think another 
> thing you 
> >might want to look at is whether you may be getting into a 5d or 1ds 
> >any time soon. If so, these ultra wides will become little more than 
> >curio objects once you do.
> >Not sure of course but I would guess that the 24-70 is a far better 
> >lens than any of the ultra wides, L or not.
> >Sorry if this is not right to the point! I have avoided investing in 
> >these extreme zooms except for the 17-40. I have heard it's 
> the best of 
> >the ultra wides if you don't mind loosing one stop! Someone 
> did a full 
> >comparison with the 16-35. It was on dpreview I think.
> >Javier
> >
> >  
> >
> So what you're saying is that there is no place for an 
> ultrawide in the full frame arena........
> 
> I beg to differ with you.  Both the 16-35 and the 17-40 are 
> viable lenses even with full frame.  When I got my 20D I got 
> the 17-40 with it.  I use it both on the 20D and my -3 when I 
> feed the need to regress and shoot film......
> 
> I don't think I am alone in my thinking that super wides are 
> good and useful in the 1.6 digital and the full frame world.
> 
> 
> Bob
> 

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