On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 11:40:19AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 6:13 PM Neal Gompa <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 5:54 PM Kevin Fenzi <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > After the announcement today of centos-stream, I wonder if it would make
> > > sense to move epel8-playground to build against that instead of the
> > > latest rhel8 release?
> > >
> > > It would make playground less usefull for testing new radical changes
> > > against the current stable point release, but on the other hand, the
> > > centos stream will become the next stable point release, so it would
> > > allow people to test against that and get changes ready that they could
> > > then push in after the next stable point release landed?
> > >
> > > What do folks think? Bad idea, good idea?
> 
> I think that makes good sense; it will provide a guarantee of early
> notice when an upcoming RHEL release might introduce a problematic
> change (intentionally or otherwise) and provides Red Hat with feedback
> and an opportunity to fix it before RHEL releases. It will also make
> our minor release merge windows easier, since we should not get any
> major surprises hitting only at Beta or GA.

As mentioned downstream, if we want to know if epel builds ok/breaks by
changes in the stream we might instead setup a koschei instance pointing
to centos stream? Since as Tony indicated we don't mass rebuild or know
when something would break there. 

> 
> If we decide *not* to do this, I think we need to at least have a
> policy of updating the buildroot for EPEL8-playground to include the
> RHEL minor release beta tree as a lesser version of the same process
> as above.

So, question: when say RHEL8.1beta comes out. Is the Centos 8 stream
updating that? (ie, has all beta changes and continues from there?).
I think we need to be very careful with beta's. If we can get security
updates via centos 8 stream then great, but if not, that makes a known
pool of insecure software. :( 

kevin

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