hhmm, I call intellect the verbal garbage machinery. With it goes the fib that Greek, and partly tolerable Egyptian civilisation is oldest and first. What's dispensed by professors is the official version which does not even come close to the real version. There is a major change in attitude going on. Anything real cannot be pickled in words.
A small sample from math> Scientists as Mystics http://www.endlesssearch.co.uk/science_scientistmystics.htm Ian C. MacFarlane Max Planck "...I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness." The Observer, London, January 25, 1931 Werner Heisenberg "The common division of the world into subject and object, inner world and outer world, body and soul is no longer adequate." Erwin Schroedinger "Subject and object are only one. The barrier between them cannot be said to have broken down as a result of recent experiments in the physical sciences, for this barrier does not exist". Schrodinger (1961) claims that the Vedic slogan “All in One and One in All” was an idea that led him to the creation of quantum mechanics. "Consciousness is never experienced in the plural, only in the singular. How does the idea of plurality (emphatically opposed by the Upanishad writers) arise at all? ... the only possible alternative is simply to keep the immediate experience that consciousness is a singular of which the plural is unknown; that there *is* only one thing and that what seems to be a plurality is merely a series of different aspects of this one thing produced by deception (the Indian maya) - in much the same way Gaurisankar and Mt. Everest turn out to be the same peak seen from different valleys." (From: What is Life) Sir James Jeans IOW what mathematicians now admit as taking place in their minds has before that been publicly admitted elsewhere. A current fad word 'orality' informs us that at those times it was poets, travelling bards, carried the systematics of civilisation. Don't use the formal latinate jargon try bloggish plain anglo-saxon. adrian socratus wrote: > What is our intellect ? > > 1. > We don't know what we are talking about" > / Nobel laureate David Gross referring to the current state of string > theory ./ > 2. > It is important to realize that in physics today, > we have no knowledge of what energy is. > We do not have a picture that energy comes in little > blobs of a definite amount. ” > (Feynman. 1987) > 3. > When asked which interpretation of QM he favored, > Feynman replied: "Shut up and calculate." > 4. > when I was first learning quantum mechanics as a graduate student > at Harvard, a mere 30 years after the birth of the subject. > "You'll never get a PhD if you allow yourself to be distracted > by such frivolities," they kept advising me, "so get back to serious > business and produce some results." > "Shut up," in other words, "and calculate." > And so I did, and probably turned out much the better for it. > / N. David Mermin / > 5. > The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion, > is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can’t > correctly > describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct > description > of something more complex? > Paul Dirac . > 6. > “ Young man, in mathematics you don't understand things, > you just get used to them.” > / John von Neumann ./ > 7. > Since the mathematical physicists have taken over, > theoretical physics has gone to pot. > The bizarre concepts generated out of the over use and > misinterpretation of mathematics would be funny if it were not > for the tragedy of the waste in time, > manpower, money, and the resulting misdirection. > / Richard Feynman./ > 8. > " I feel that we do not have definite physical concepts at all > if we just apply working mathematical rules; > that's not what the physicist should be satisfied with." > /Dirac / > 9. > Etc…….. > > Conclusion from some article: > "One of the best kept secrets of science is that physicists > have lost their grip on reality." > ================= . > P.S. > > What is our intellect ? > We can see this practically : > after “ big bang “ all Galaxies run away from us. > # > This is our normal intellect in our normal Orwell’s farm. > > =================.. > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
