Comment by Jim. ================= On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:50 AM, socratus <[email protected]> wrote: > > What is the nature of Light Quanta ? > In my opinion this question is similar to other one: > How can the SRT be understood ?
Thank you for zeroing in of the heart of the issues. Light quanta is what exhibits relative energy and everything including space time is exhibited by perception of relative energy. > More than 100 years have passed when SRT was created > but the discussions about it are still going on . > > I suggest my own opinion about SRT (Light Quanta & Vacuum) > === . > > One of the SRT laws says: > The speed of Light Quanta in the Vacuum is constant > equal to : c=1. No other particles can reach such speed. > If all the other particles cannot reach this seed it means > they are absolutely different particles. Their abilities > are absolutely another. And if they absolutely different, > so we cannot compare them. From our school days > we know that to compare two incommensurable quantities > is not possible. As Feynman proclaimed, nothing in quantum logical electro dynamical kinetic action is like a particle or a wave. > It is the same as to compare the elephant and the whale. > We can see the elephant in the safari and the whale in the > ocean. But we cannot meet them together in the same > reference frame. We can say momentum was exchanged between electrons by the change in momentum state they exhibit. But our notion that "something" transferred the momentum, the photon and the anti photon, cannot be modeled as a particles or a waves. > Therefore I say the SRT is theory about Light Quanta. Equal and opposite quantum logical action, exhiobits kinetic momentum transfer, experienced as "the electrodynamics of moving bodies", is the title of Einstein's 1905 paper introducing special relativity.. > Once again: > The speed of Light Quanta in the Vacuum is constant > equal to : c=1. In the Vacuum !!! I must stipulate that this is by local measurement according to your own ruler and clock. Light appears slower in a relatively denser vacuum although measurement in the denser quantum logical electro dynamical kinetic structure are non the wiser and experience no effect of compaction of their rulers or slowing of their clocks They measure light speed as constant with respect to their rules no matter how long others figure their rulers to be relatively. The length of the ruler never changes locally independent of motion or local mass/energy density as it is perceived relatively. > The conditions of safari created the geometrical form of elephant. > The conditions of ocean created the geometrical form of the whale. > Then we must suppose that the conditions of Vacuum have the > influence on the geometrical form of Light Quanta. The geometrical form of the light quanta is two dimensional, equal and opposite change in quantum logical electro dynamical kinnetic space time. A 10 meter antenna receives photons ten meters in size and can receive half the photons twice that size and so on by increases size exhibited by delay elements in the curcuit. An electron state changes by the effective distance of the size of the photon, x=c*h/e, locally in logical state space and fraction of collective space time. > Question: What are the conditions of Vacuum ? > 1. > The matter ( and its density) in the Universe is very small. This is a contrested point. The vacuum energy has the effect of 185 Giga Electron Volts per cubic centimeter. As John Wheeler proclaimed, the vacuum is only marginally less dense than matter. At the same time, the vacuum is the zero point we measure relative to. We only measure values directly that are higher than the vacuum energy. We see energy flow from high energy to low. We can never see them directly going below the vacuum energy as that is the lowest energy around. It is not that the vacuum energy is small, it is that it necessariily appears to be zero independent of how much energy it contains. > This small mass cannot roll the Universe into sphere therefore > the Universe must be infinite. This does not follow exactly. We cake an error of catagory considering a photon a rest mass. As the photon has no rest mass it cannot be considered a small mass. It's mass is determined by its energy by e=m*c^2. That it does not exhibit a rest mass locally does not mean the universe is not contained in finite time. At the same time, photons looping logically do exhibit a rest frame and thus a rest mass. Photons slowed by mass density or relative motion in their local space appear slower than light and thus exhibit a rest frame. Certainly the observable universe is contained in finite time and the existence of unobservables is dubious. Belief that anything infinite has been constructed in finite time is contradicted by the necessity of renormalization of quantum logical system to remove all infinities to get the answers that agree with experience. > 2. > This infinite space is Kingdom of Cold. > Now it is considered that the temperature of this Kingdom > is: T= 2,7K. But this quantity is not constant, it is relative > and decreases, and in the future will reach T= 0K. > and the laws of thermodynamics say: the particles in the > Kingdom of Cold (T= 0K) cannot have volume. It means > they are flat particles. And from all flat geometrical forms > the most symmetrical is circle: c/d= pi = 3,14 …… If we believe the second law of thermodynamics we are falsly led to the conclusion that T goes to zero in finite time. However, this is impossible by the third law of thermodynamics. When a system achives motion to the mazimal entropy, T=0, the motion that brings it to that state cannot be stopped and any motion moves it away from equalibrim. Absolute zero can never be obtained by a thermodynamic system. But the issue is much deeper than this. We can achieve extremely low temperatures and see light slowed down by slow quantum action down to stopped light. We cannot really stop light due to the no cloning theorum which can be related to the third law. But the slowed light is only a relative perpective. Locally the light is always at the same speed and they do not consider it slow. They would measure exactly c. While the universe might be cold and slow from our current perspective, it will not be slow for the inhabitants of the future world. > 3. > According to Quantum Theory the Vacuum is some kind > of energetic space, it means the particles, the Light Quanta > are also some kind of energetic power. No. Equal and opposite kinetic quantum logical action need not involve any change in energy. Action of change of state to a higher or lower energy is a matter of relative perspective. The notion of energy emerges, it is not fundimental. It is true that higher energy determines the clocking of quantum logical interaction from our perspective by there is nothing preferred about our perspective. > All discussions are tautology without understanding what Vacuum is. We have no call to presume anything exists besides equal and opposite quantum logical interactions. What we call the vacuum is simply the space and time exhibited by delays in quantum logical interaction. What we consider physical distance, is the perceived logical distance of logic propagating at light speed locally according to our physical logical perspective and logical action at the speed of light. > So, in my opinion, the Quantum of Light is some kind of > energetic particle with flat geometrical form of circle. Well, it exhibits two half dimensional vectors, one lateral and one transverse, so if is certainly flat. In that it obeys half spin networks at any relative frequency we can consider its cycle as a sort of a circle. That the linear momentum exhibited is a two pi multiple the angular momentum supports this circular view. But, is is not actually a particle or a circle. As you have already said, to define it as such represents a category error. > But if the Quantum of Light always moves only with constant > speed c=1, then, it seems, it is a mad particle. Thinking in such > way it is hard to understand its importance in our life. It is so mad, the direction of travel is not even necessarily the same for all observers. The perceived logical ordering depends on both position and motion. > But SRT helps us to understand that this view on the Quantum > of Light is wrong. The SRT says: its laws depend on the movement > of the Quantum of Light. > Once again. > The SRT laws (Lorentz transformation ) explain us how the behaviour > ( movement ) of the Quantum of Light changes. > The theory says : in the movement > a) the mass and energy of Quantum of Light changes. > b) the geometrical form (circle) of Quantum of Light changes > c) the time of its life changes. > (according to Lorentz transformation ) What is constant is our perception of light speed, or the rate of quantum logical kinetic electro dynamical interaction locally. What covaries is the perception of space time and energy relatively as far as everyone else is concerned from other positions and varying relative motion. Logical interactions are absolute, but their orderings and size, and thus how much space and time they exhibit is only relative. What we call space and time is that which is exhibited locally. There is no global preferred notion of size or time. Only the direction of time is absolute, as interaction events are experienced only once by the direct participants and never again exhibiting only positive time and space in relative degree but in absolute immutable local orderings all relative participants agree to. The notion of the moving flat circular twist, right handed to exchange momentum between electrons, or left handed to exchange momentum between positrons, may help us comprehend the action of a quanta, but in characterizing quanta as particles and waves we are embellishing simple equal and opposite half spin twists with a deeper reality than they actually posses. Ultimately, doing so, will lead us to the wrong answers and the false believe that the quantum is strange. Jim > ==== . > Best wishes > Israel Sadovnik. 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