On Nov 28, 2:33 pm, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote: > But, in Linguistics, empirical validation, including experimentation,> is > more easily done than in sociology or psychiatry/ > > You think so?... clearly..... > Can you explain how easier and why?... I mean, apart from the
1. Unlike psychiatry, the linguistics experimenter doesn't have to spend years of analysis delving into subjects' unconscious. 2. Unlike sociology, the linguistics experimenter doesn't have to be a powerful government authority such as a dictator to perform social experiments. 3. For example, a linguistics experimenter could poll members of a large (thousands) group by presenting them (maybe, by phone) with an expression such as, "Wolves get larger further north." (the intent is to analyze bare plurals in this context), and asking them to paraphrase the sentence without using any bare plurals or ambiguous words such as "generally." Then, for example, the experimenter reports the empirical conditional probability distribution (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditional_probability) P(meaning / context, audience characteristics) > "seeming" false validation (experimental or otherwise provided by such > things" (human constructs, really) such "grammar rules" accepted > definitions and the like.... language as a means of shared > communication requiring a basic imposed uniforminty for the sake of > mutual "human" understanding, sort of thing..... If there were "basic imposed uniformity," there would be no homonyms. (period) > As another consideration.... how do you account for other shared > imposed orderings... like Mathematics.... Musical notation..... > Computer languages....etc. Are they "Hard Science or Soft Science.... > Mathematics seems to be a confusing case... but only because it is > used to account for "Hard Science" sorts of "things"? > nominal9 I'm sorry; are these languages the domains of linguists? I am under the impression that the vast majority of linguists do not understand much mathematical or computer languages. Unlike English, Spanish, etc., those languages were not invented by a group that contained many idiots, imbeciles, morons, schizophrenics, neurotics and criminals. > > On Nov 27, 5:17 pm, aruzinsky <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > But, in Linguistics, empirical validation, including experimentation, > > is more easily done than in sociology or psychiatry. > > > On Nov 27, 11:20 am, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hard Science... Soft Science.... > > > Physics... Sociology > > > Biology... Psychology > > > anything... "Human"- or behavioral based (or other such areas... > > > pretty much Soft Science, I think......... > > > Cause and effect.... action and reaction > > > nominal9 > > > > On Nov 24, 12:34 pm, aruzinsky <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Correction: > > > > > Replace "experimentation" with "empirical validation." > > > > Experimentation is not always necessary for science (My bad.). > > > > > On Nov 23, 4:40 pm, aruzinsky <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > According tohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics, linguistics is > > > > > a science. According > > > > > tohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science#Scientific_method, > > > > > science requires experimentation. For your entertainment, what's > > > > > wrong with these papers about bare plurals?: > > > > > >http://people.umass.edu/partee/docs/Dependent_Plurals_Partee.pdfhttp:...... > > > > > > The authors of these papers do not report any experimentation, > > > > > therefore, these studies are not science. > > > > > > I found only one paper with an experiment: > > > > > >http://mercury.hau.ac.kr/kggc/Publications/SIGG/SIGG12/SIGG12201_HKKa... > > > > > > but it is flawed in some other ways.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en.
