Hello Michael Liked your post A turing M should rebuild the information out of a black box, were information is somehow stored-not stored (needs to be rebuilt). Is this what you meant? The reference to time being rolled back I agree 100%, or like saying the same for entropy
thks On 1 maio, 10:35, Michael Atovigba <[email protected]> wrote: > Quite interesting, that information is (as a postulate or hypothesis?) > never lost but stored in some form in the black box (hole). Thus, we should > manufacture a computer or turing M that could retrieved information from > the black hole and present as (live) historical matter. Implies that time > could be rolled back to minus infinity. > Mike Atovigba > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 10:47 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Today's Topic Summary > > > Group:http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/topics > > > - Where does the information come > > from?<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.h...>[4 > > Updates] > > > Where does the information come > > from?<http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/t/395ebeb96daacbb6> > > > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Apr 06 06:28AM -0700 > > > ‘ The laws of physics dictate that information, like energy, > > cannot be destroyed, which means it must go somewhere. > > Where did the information go? ’ > > / Book ‘ The big questions’ by Michael Brooks. > > Page 195-196. / > > 1. > > Modern biologists speak of information – in genetics. > > ( a set of chromosomes contains in its genes the information ) > > The information content in the nucleus of a single human cell > > is comparable to that of a library containing a thousand volumes. > > Question: > > How many cells – volumes can a single man have and > > how they can create a child during 9 months if according > > to the probability theory it is impossible? > > Question: > > Does DNA Know Geometry ? > > 2. > > When a radium atom decays, old electro - information is lost, > > and the new information is not equivalent to the old. > > It seems as if the elementary event in physics presupposes > > not the conservation of information but its change. > > Question: > > What does law of transformation mean according to > > the single quanta of information- electron? > > 3. > > Black hole information paradox . . . > > It suggests that physical information could permanently > > disappear in a black hole, . . . . . > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole_information_paradox > > > =========== . . > > > awori achoka <[email protected]> Apr 06 05:56PM +0300 > > > If information is preserved in Black Hole, then it rhetorically implies > > that, we live in world of multi universes...do not ask me for > > proof...am > > not a physicist. > > On Apr 6, 2012 4:28 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > awori achoka <[email protected]> Apr 06 06:00PM +0300 > > > > If information is preserved in a "Black Hole", then it rhetorically > > implies that, we live in a world of multi universes...do not ask me for > > proof. > > > > On Apr 6, 2012 4:28 PM, "[email protected]" < > > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> =========== . . > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Epistemology" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. > > > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Apr 06 10:20AM -0700 > > > ‘Can energy and information be identified ? ‘ > > ask Carl Friedrich von Weizsacker in his book: > > The unity of Nature. Page 282. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Friedrich_von_Weizs%C3%A4cker > > > And on the page 290 – 291 he wrote: > > ‘ Mass is information.’ > > And on the page 292 he wrote: > > ‘ Energy is information.’ > > =========. > > My opinion. > > What is information from Quantum’s Theory point of view ? > > From Quantum’s Theory point of view ‘information’ must be > > some smallest bit / quantum of information. But physicists > > in our world ( according to QED ) use only one particle – > > electron to transfer information. They don’t use any another > > particles ( quark, muon, meson, tau, . . . etc ) > > Therefore I say: ‘ The smallest bit / quantum of information > > is electron with energy: E=h*f. ‘ > > ===. > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group > > epistemology. > > You can post via email <[email protected]>. > > To unsubscribe from this group, > > send<[email protected]>an empty message. > > For more options, > > visit<http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/topics>this group. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Epistemology" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. 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