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A-men to that, Nothing to prove by doing acro in a coupe!!!!! Dick Logston ----- Original Message ----- From: "N161LH 3B9" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Ercoupe Eroubatics > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any > advice in this forum.]---- > > > Hi Wayne, > > I couldn't agree more. This comes up every couple of years. First, this > is not an aircraft which is approved for aerobatic use. Second, they're > not getting any younger. Why you'd risk a classic plane doing this is > beyond me. > > I have heard many, many tales of this being attempted back in the day, and > most of those tales have unhappy endings. I seem to recall a few > occasions of folks breaking out of loops in unintended split Ss with > unpleasant effects on the airframe. > > Whatever. They're not made for it. Don't do it. > > Leslie Holbrook > Alon A2 N161LH (Flying Colors #1) > Chester, CT 3B9 > > > > >>From: "Wayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: "Wayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "Marty Duke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Ercoupe Eroubatics >>Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 07:02:05 -0700 >> >>----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any >>advice in this forum.]---- >> >> >>Coupers:: >>Aerobatics in an Ercoupe/Aircoupe is a frightening concept to me! I have >>known others who have attempted certain maneuvers, some were successful >>most were not. The Ercoupe was designed to be forgiving of what used to >>be called power on and power off Stall/spin accidents. Pilots loosing >>control on arrival and departure. a serious problem at the time the >>Ercoupe was designed. To accomplish this Fred designed the airframe with >>small rudder control surfaces, limited elevator movement, and differential >>aileron control. This was done to LIMIT control input by the pilot in >>order to keep the pilot from cross controlling the airframe and thereby >>loosing control in the process. >>The Ercoupe lacks power, control authority, inverted systems, physical >>strengths, and pilot restraint, required to maneuver outside the "straight >>and level." control envelope. >>Why on Earth anyone would want to exceed the physical limitations of a >>pure pleasure aircraft is beyond my comprehension! >>I know of 2 people that are still with us that have looped a Coupe. I >>know of 9 that are no longer with us who have failed in the attempt. You >>do the math! >>Wayne Woollard >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Marty Duke >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 10:36 PM >> Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Ercoupe Eroubatics >> >> >>----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any >>advice in this forum.]---- >> >> >>Hi All, >> >> Jim Phelps story reminded me that I've been meaning to ask you all >> "What kind of aerobatics have you done in a Coupe?". In the past two or >> so years of owning a 415C, I've had three pilots come up to me and tell >> me stories of looping Coupes. One was a fellow who said the salesman >> over at the Shelton Airport near here looped one with him on a demo ride >> in a brand new Coupe. Another guy here in Renton said he did it >> regularly in a Coupe he used to own (He now has a very nice Cessna 180 on >> floats that he has loops as well nowadays, believe it or not). The third >> was a older fellow I met at the Arlington EAA flyin last year. He now >> flies a neat gyrocopter that he tows around on a trailer behind his >> Miata. He and his dad had a FBO in Montana, where they rented Ercoupes. >> He had a couple thousand hours in Coupes consequently. He gave me all >> the details on how to loop a Coupe. He went on to explain how you can do >> a real nice barrel roll in a Coupe, if you know what you are doing too. >> He said he loved doing a barrel roll in a Coupe, because many thought it >> couldn't be done. I don't remember all the details of his explanations of >> how to do these maneuvers, but he made it sound easy. From what I >> remember, somewhere, a 415C is eligible for some aerobatic maneuvers, >> since is was built before there was a Normal Category, which limits some >> of this stuff in newer aircraft. I'm not thinking of trying any of this >> stuff in a 60 year old airframe, but am curious if in of you out there >> still do any of this, or what you might have tried in one of our babies >> in the past. >> >> Marty Duke N10743 KRNT WA7HOI >> >> >> >> >> >>======================================================================== ====== >>To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm >>Search the archives on http://escribe.com/aviation/coupers/ >> >> >> >> >>======================================================================== ====== >>To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm >>Search the archives on http://escribe.com/aviation/coupers/ >> >> > > > ========================================================================== ==== > To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm > Search the archives on http://escribe.com/aviation/coupers/ > > > > ========================================================================== ==== To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm Search the archives on http://escribe.com/aviation/coupers/
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