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I'm betting the latter, Ed. It's easy to let the speed creep over 100 in the Alon if you're not watching. My way of dealing with this is to trim nose up a bit when flying open canopy. Leslie Holbrook Alon A2 N161LH (Flying Colors #1) Chester, CT 3B9 >From: "Ed Burkhead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Ed Burkhead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Coupe-List" <[email protected]> >Subject: RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Top ten ercoupe improvements? >Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 08:12:48 -0600 > >----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any >advice in this forum.]---- > > > >Yet there's a 100 mph speed limit on open canopy on the Alons. > >There's been at least one Alon canopy that departed the plane in flight. >It >must have been either something mechanically wrong with the track system or >they exceeded the speed limit. > >Ed Burkhead >http://edburkhead.com/ >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >-----Original Message----- >From: N161LH 3B9 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 8:04 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Top ten ercoupe improvements? > >----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any >advice in this forum.]---- > > >Chris, > >Wherever did you get the idea that you can't fly an Alon open canopy? I >fly >mine open all the time. > >Leslie Holbrook >Alon A2 N161LH (Flying Colors #1) >Chester, CT 3B9 > > > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Top ten ercoupe improvements? > >Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 17:12:28 -0800 (PST) > > > >----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any > >advice in this forum.]---- > > > > > >I've got to agree with the philosophy of keeping a 'Coupe a 'Coupe. If >it > >wasn't > >a 'Coupe I wanted then there are plenty of other planes out there that > >could > >probably do what I want. > > > > > >Here's what I expect to get out of a 'Coupe, > > > >1. A beautiful and unique airplane worthy of comment. > >2. A stable and safe airplane that is easy and fun to fly. > >3. Something I can tool around in and have fun. > >4. A convertible!! (Sorry Alon fans, I like my windows down) > > > >What I will not compromise: > > > >1. Stall speed and performance. > >2. Low speed flight characteristics. > >3. Air and ground handling. > >4. Form and appearance. > >5. Simplicity. > > > >Immediately negotiable items include. > > > >1. Avionics > >2. Seating > >3. Paint jobs > >4. Engines > >5. Non structural materials > > > > > >My top ten change list so far: > > > >1. Smaller Header tank > >2. More comfortable seats. (Not bucket or Cessna) > >3. Fuel tank foam. All tanks. > >4. Better heating/vent system. > >5. 100 HP high efficiency engine. > >6. More aerodynamic canopy that still opens in flight. > >7. Small-format IFR capable glass cockpit. (something I can hide behind > >the > >glove box cover) > >8. A touch longer wings for slower "stall" (read as mush if you like). > >9. Ultra-lightweight composites for painted trim and fairings. > >10. Yes, last but not least I have to include...... Sport Pilot >approved. > > > >Trim a little weight, slow the stall speed a bit, Viola. > >Somehow I doubt they'll ever bust me on max speed. > > > >Chris > > > > > >On Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:58:15 -0800 (PST), "William R. Bayne" wrote: > > > > > > > > ----[Please read <a > >href="<a > >href="http://mail.trent.net/jump/http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm";>htt p: >//ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm</a>">http://mail.trent.net/jump/http://erc oup >ers.com/disclaimer.htm">http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm</a></a>; > >before following any > >advice > > > in this forum.]---- > > > > > > > > > on 2/6/03 12:31 PM, Hartmut at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > ----[Please read <a > >href="<a > >href="http://mail.trent.net/jump/http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm";>htt p: >//ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm</a>">http://mail.trent.net/jump/http://erc oup >ers.com/disclaimer.htm">http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm</a></a>; > >before following any > > > > advice in this forum.]---- > > > > > > > > Jim. > > > > I really like your analogy. > > > > Can't say it better. > > > > > > > > Hartmut > > > > > > > > Jim Phelps wrote: > > > > > > > >> ----[Please read <a > >href="<a > >href="http://mail.trent.net/jump/http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm";>htt p: >//ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm</a>">http://mail.trent.net/jump/http://erc oup >ers.com/disclaimer.htm">http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm</a></a>; > >before following any > > > >> advice in this forum.]---- > > > >> > > > >> Would be nice but it would be like the people who moved to the >desert > > > >> by Barstow CA. they liked the hot dry climate because they felt > >better > > > >> than when at the coast. but than they brought in ther plants and > > > >> trees(like on the cosast) and made lakes around there places and >than > > > >> complained the desert wasn't like it used to and was more like >there > > > >> old home. Change the coupe and it won't be the coupe... Jim 2749H > > > >> > > > OK Guys, > > > > > > Rejoice! Your philosophy has much more to offer! > > > > > > Convert your C-85s back to C-75s; then remove those (with starter, > >generator > > > and battery) and install C-65s. Don't forget to take out the second > >wing > > > tank...it wasn't even optional until later. Sell your metal props and > >get > > > wood ones. Put the ball back in your nose gear steering. Install the > > > crank-type (no tab) elevator trim, and voluntarily fly at 1175 lbs. > >maximum > > > gross! And tell the FAA to "pound sand"...reinstall the aluminum >alloy > > > carburetor support fittings and remove your gascolator braces. > > > > > > You'll have to change your forged aluminum main landing gear, main >wing > >spar > > > and wing fuel tanks. If you had the "steel" main landing gear, you'll > >have > > > to convert back to the double-fork aluminum trailing arms. > > > > > > Leave the radios and nav aids on the ground. Ahh, I forgot. You >can't > > > leave! The original size tires aren't available anymore, and neither >is > > > original fuel. Anybody need a ride to the next fly-in? > > > > > > WRB > > > > >========================================================================= == >==To > >leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm > >Search the archives on http://escribe.com/aviation/coupers/ > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > >========================================================================= === >== >To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm >Search the archives on http://escribe.com/aviation/coupers/ > > > > >========================================================================= ===== >To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm >Search the archives on http://escribe.com/aviation/coupers/ _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ========================================================================== ==== To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm Search the archives on http://escribe.com/aviation/coupers/
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