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One problem with Skyport is a bunch of what they sell is dropped shipped
from Univair. Unlike the Swift association which owns the type certificate and
about every thing else to do with the Swift Skyport only has a few STC and very
little else. I talked to the owner of Skyport and his profit margin from what he
gets from Univair is very small. If Univair was to decide not to give a discount
any more and make all the profit some one would be out of luck. However for a
retired person it would probably be a fair business.
Dick & Nancy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think the Swift people have a similar setup. I'm very impressed with a lot
of things that the Luscombe Foundation has accomplised, and they even
produce some new 8 series Luscombe airplanes! I know it's a collosal
undertaking, but a Coupe kit would sure be easier and cheaper to reproduce
than a Luscombe with all it's compound curves and hand work.
I've been very dissapointed in Univair.
Artie
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I don't know, I don't know how the EOC is run. I am just thinking of
what the Navion club did years ago. They run it as a business and at one
time even owned the TC. They have parts and a parts guy to deal with
them.
Kevin
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From: Hartmut Beil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Question would be who would run it.
Time commitment would be endless.
Hartmut
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Has the owners club ever considered buying it?
Kevin
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From: Hartmut Beil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 2:55 PM
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I doubt that Skyport made 75k/year under the new owner. First, he did
not
own it for a year so far and second, the customer base must have
declined a
bit with Lee's departure from Skyport, or Skyport departing from Lee.
This kind of business lives from the owners ability to spend a lot of
time
talking to customers and also from detailed knowledge of Ercoupes.
I think it would be the perfect business for a knowledgeable retired
person.
But the commitment would have to be overwhelmingly strong. Running a
business with all the paperwork , shipping, taxes and more is time
consuming. Plus pampering customers - add creating and maintaining a
Company
website and you are in for a lot of 18 hour days. California is charging
you
a minimum tax of $800 if you run a LLC, which Skyport is. You would have
to
sell quiet a bit to break even.
I am saying all that because I seriously looked into taking the business
-
it sounds nice to do, but the timely commitment is the big bummer. What
I
doubt is that the business return would allow for hiring people. I am
also
not even close to retirement age so I decided to see this opportunity go
to
someone else.
If all fails, one would own 3 Garages full of parts and 14 STC's .
Hartmut
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Interesting... I was thinking the other way. If I was closer to
retirement this might be a fun thing to go. I hope someone picks this
up. When I had my first Ercoupe I spent a lot of money at Skyport
restoring it. This guy has only had it a year or so hasn't he? From what
I have read not many people have used them with this owner. Is that
true? If it is how could he have made 75K last year? Anyway since I now
have another Ercoupe the new owner can look forward to getting a bunch
of money from me if he wants it.
Kevin
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Wayne
I heard it was on E Bay for $75000. I was also told directly by Skyport
that I could buy it for that price. He told me the profits from sales
last year was close to that number. If I was a little younger I might
be tempted to take him up on it.
Bob Bullock
N5621F
Maryland
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