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Wood, I have always been a strong believer in maintaining as much and as many means of control
as I possibly can have in any aircraft. Having means of control accidentally taken away from me
is worrysome to me as I am a firm believer in "MURPHY'S LAW ". After 40 some years
with various light aircraft and several rather close calls, I will always want control of all axis
when airborne. I just do not have unlimited trust in any aircraft component. I know that, as an example,
when flying say my PA17 Vagabond, that I have two almost completely independent elevator control systems
as well as a very effective elevator trim which I can use as a backup elevator control should the actual elevator
control system fail in flight. The trim is very very powerful and deserves much respect from a new person.
The PA17 Vagabonds , or many other types as well, have a large and very effective rudder which can easily
be used to replace lost aileron control. What would you do in your Ercoupe if you were to loose aileron control ?
What would you do if the central control system were to fail ? When was the last time that you checked the
bicycle chain behind the instrument panel ? or the central control unit behind and under the seat. What about
the connections in your horizontal stabilize/elevator/rudder?
Don't make the mistake that personal pride comes into play when discussions are of three control verses
two control types. Aircraft control is what it is all about, be it in the air or touching down a damaged aircraft.
Fred said that he preferred 3 control, and he must have had very good reason.
I don't think that it is a case of the three control folks being "smug" because all sane pilots fly with some level of
"what if " It just comes with the game. Frankly I prefer to stack the "cards" in my favour, always.
I have enjoyed my limited hours in the various Ercoupe models. They are works of art really.
But when my feet are busy seaching the floor for rudder pedals, it is nothing more than a search for control
of the ship. The more control of anything that you are used to, the more you will always want I think.
Independent brakes right and left are another important item but more so in a tail wheel type.
The aircraft that is perfect hasn't been built yet, if it ever will get built, but Fred sure tried hard.
Ron Hynes
-------Original Message-------
From: Wood, Percy
Date: 06/21/06 14:04:00
To: flyin
Subject: RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Rudder Pedals For Sale Some points:
* ERCO sales thought they had a "gimmick" in two-control, so most `coupes were built that way.
* Fred Weick didn't agree, but went along with it. The `coupe is engineered so peddles bolt in and out.
* Fred's design for Piper, the Cherokee, had a separate yaw control. It seems to have sold better.
* "Stick and Rudder" agrees with marketing. The author points out that the Wright Brothers linked the rudder and roll control.
Percy ("If I wanted peddles, I'd buy a bicycle.") in NM, USA From: Fred Lamkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 1:52 PM To: flyin Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Rudder Pedals For Sale Why would anyone want to put rudder pedal's in an ercoupe? With the limited rudder travel, it can't make much difference in control and you could, I guess, spin the plane if you cross up your controls? It must be, some pilots have to feel they are doing something other people cannot do. Like my instructor said, "It drive s like a car" (and I'm not sure that was a compliment, but it is a fact). ----- Original Message -----
From: Lee Hockman
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 2:26 PM
Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] Rudder Pedals For Sale
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