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At 07:09 PM 1/28/2003 -0600, William R. Bayne wrote:
>If a C-85 is "prop-challenged", does the prop turn up book rpm on the
>ground?

A lot of people did the C85 conversion (re-jetting the carb) when they
did a 415C to D update. But they didn't change the prop. So they don't
get the RPM improvement. Also, it's not clear that any of the stock
props available really make the best of the C85 in the Coupe.

>   If not, maybe the engine or the prop needs attention!  At full rich
>and high altitude a Stromberg is being asked to do something no
carburetor
>can do...deliver best power with a non-optimum fuel mixture, to say
nothing
>of the fuel waste.

True...a lot of the Strombergs never made it up high so the full-rich
wiring
was well-advised. Or at least a reasonable practice.

>I've heard more than a few claim the Stromberg mixture control doesn't
make
>any difference.  If it's in good condition and the holes in the disk and
>body are clean, that mixture control does all anyone could ask (except
>function as an idle cut-off, which it was not designed to do).

Agreed...but it really only needs human intervention above 4000 feet or
so. Stromberg was known, in all their carburetor lines, for making use
of the properties of air to do some 'automatic' mixture control. They
did the same thing on automotive carburetors, which caused them
to be a leader in European automobiles.

>As a separate consideration, has anybody seen a 337 to remove (or
disable)
>the mixture control?  Is your insurance good without it if your
>airworthiness isn't?

Interesting point, but if it's the case then there are sure a lot of
illegal
J3s, C120s, C140s, Ercoupes...    And has there ever been a test
case. Why stir up the can of worms? It's bad enough that getting
a split-elevator approved is like pulling teeth.

>Now I'll have to admit on that coupe the "automatic" mixture enrichment
had
>been removed (same questions apply) or this might not have happened.
I've
>yet to "be aware" of this actually functional on a coupe...maybe most are
>removed?

Sure... ...along with the automatic carb heat.

What it comes down to is that a well-turned-out O200 conversion with a
Marvel
carb makes for a really nice improvement. It seems to take the plane from
under-powered to 'just right.'  At the same time, the C90 seems also to
provide
a good (some say the best) balance of airframe, engine, and available
props.
Well-turned-out Alons really scoot in many cases.

Greg


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