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Alan,

 

Your Coupe has a range of minimum flying speeds varying from max power to power off.  Fred Weick put significant effort into designing the Coupe so that the difference in these two extremes of minimum flying speed are as little as possible.  Saunders Aviation which bought Coupe manufacturing rights from ERCO reduced that variance even more with the split elevator.

 

With zero power, the up elevator can only push the tail down so much, giving a minimum flying speed that is almost constant for your plane.

 

When you have some power, the slipstream will push the raised elevator down even more.  This results in more nose up and greater angle of attack and therefore an even lower minimum flying speed.

 

At high power settings, the tail can be pushed down pretty far.  If the tail is pushed down too far, you would lose the “characteristically incapable of spinning” feature of Coupes.  That is why, Fred Weick told me, that the D model has the 9° up travel limitation – with 13° up travel, the 85 hp engine and 1400 lb. gross weight, the tail could be pushed down so far the flying characteristics were judged by the FAA to be unacceptable.

 

I’d only get about 5 mph difference between zero power and some power.  I used this to good effect on long runways. Just as I flared, I’d raise the power from idle by a couple of hundred rpm (just enough I could hear the difference in rpm) and I’d hold the nose on the landing light on the far end of the field.  With this mild power setting giving a low sink rate in ground effect and a moderate nose up attitude, I got 100% squeakers – very good for impressing passengers and other pilots.

 

When the engine fails, the prop normally windmills.  The windmilling prop will give extra drag – a little bit more drag than you get at idle.  This will lower your gliding distance and ratio.  If you could stop the prop by raising the nose, you’d be back to about the drag you get with an idling engine. I made the personal decision that I wouldn’t (normally) try to stop the prop – it’s better, I decided, to just pick a good place to land and concentrate on putting it there.

 

I’ve rarely seen experienced instructors recommend turning off the engine for gliding practice in GA aircraft.  Besides, there’s no **guarantee** you could start it while flying the plane.  I guess, if I had a 5,000-12,000’ runway all to myself, I might try a series of engine-turned-off landings (but I doubt the tower would like me much if I did).  I’m not going to do such practice in a Coupe at a 2,000-3,000’ airport.

 

Turning off the master switch won’t affect the engine at all.  Turning off the mags will.  I don’t know what would be the effect on the engine of turning the switches back on, with the engine windmilling, after you’ve loaded the cylinders with some weird fuel-air mix or with globs of liquid fuel.

 

I’d just suggest practicing your power off landings at idle with your target being a line about 1,000’ down the runway.  Be firmly aware, that with a zero-power, windmilling prop, you won’t glide quite as far as your idling-prop practice.  Maybe you could simulate the windmilling prop by having your passenger hold both arms straight up out the open windows. (Holding arms down toward the wing-root diminishes glide even more, I’ve heard.)

 

These are good playing things to give you a challenge and make puttering around the airport more fun.  Enjoy.

 

Ed Burkhead

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-----Original Message-----
From: alan1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:16 AM
To: Ed Burkhead
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [COUPERS-TECH] glide ratio

 

Ed,

    Thank you for relating your gliding performance testing procedures and calculations.  I have one question, however.  How do I determine my Ercoupe's minimum flying speed ?  Power off, yoke full back or with enough power to maintain altitude?

Also, as someone suggested, should I practice over the field by turning off the mags and/or the master switch and see what happens?  If I do that, can the engine be restarted mid-air should the need arise?  Will the prop stop or will I just drop?

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